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    Hillary Clinton tells Pakistan it's doing too little against Al Qaeda

    Hillary Clinton tells Pakistan it's doing too little against Al Qaeda -- latimes.com

    On a fence-mending visit, the secretary of State turns blunt, saying she finds it 'hard to believe that nobody in your government knows where they are and couldn't get them if they really wanted to.'
    By Paul Richter

    October 30, 2009

    Reporting from Washington - Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, visiting Pakistan on a fence-mending tour, turned unusually blunt Thursday, accusing the government of failing to do all it could to track down Al Qaeda.

    Clinton told a group of journalists in Lahore that she found it "hard to believe that nobody in your government knows where they are and couldn't get them if they really wanted to." Al Qaeda, she said, "has had a safe haven in Pakistan since 2002."

    Clinton's three-day visit is her first to Pakistan since she became secretary of State, and its principal goal is to improve strained relations. On the first day of her visit, in Islamabad, she declared that she wanted to "turn a page" in the U.S.-Pakistani relationship.

    But on the second day, frustration seemed to surface as Clinton, a former U.S. senator from New York, confronted the long-standing strains between the countries.

    Discussing Al Qaeda, she raised the issue of Pakistan's powerful military intelligence arm, the Inter-Services Intelligence agency, which has been accused of secretly supporting militant groups in Afghanistan.

    "There are issues that, not just the U.S., but others have with your government and with your military security establishment," she said.

    Her comments came on a day when she took questions from students at Government College University in Lahore who made it clear that they are deeply suspicious of the United States' intentions in both Pakistan and Afghanistan.
    I am happy to see a firm stance being taken with this Government that seems less than willing seriously go after Al Qaeda with the vigor needed. But they do have problems not too unlike those in Pakistan with the enemy looking like everyone else and the population in general fearing the bad guys so much they are reluctant to point fingers and help the government.
    I do however question the tactic of using sarcasm which puts our once reliable allies in a position that may not be conducive to cooperation at a time when it is needed most. It just doesn't seem very diplomatic to do this in a public way that is sure to piss them off at least a little. I would think that stern talk should be done in private so as not alienate people even if you're right. The old idiom, "digression is the better part of valor", would get better results in the long run.

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    Re: Hillary Clinton tells Pakistan it's doing too little against Al Qaeda

    If Pakistanis are unaware of the deceit and hypocrisy practiced by some in their government and military, it's time they got a kick in the ass. Hillary can do the job nicely.

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    Re: Hillary Clinton tells Pakistan it's doing too little against Al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    If Pakistanis are unaware of the deceit and hypocrisy practiced by some in their government and military, it's time they got a kick in the ass. Hillary can do the job nicely.
    I think there is a great deal of sympathy for the taliban and al qaeda in pakistan, as there is in all muslim countries. I just think they don't care to hear about our perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I think there is a great deal of sympathy for the taliban and al qaeda in pakistan, as there is in all muslim countries. I just think they don't care to hear about our perspective.
    You are correct, but I just don't understand why Pakistanis sympathize with these monsters.

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    Re: Hillary Clinton tells Pakistan it's doing too little against Al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I think there is a great deal of sympathy for the taliban and al qaeda in pakistan, as there is in all muslim countries. I just think they don't care to hear about our perspective.
    Then why can the islamists not win elections? they rarely exceed 10% of the vote in pakistan

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    Re: Hillary Clinton tells Pakistan it's doing too little against Al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    You are correct, but I just don't understand why Pakistanis sympathize with these monsters.
    They are their monsters.

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    Re: Hillary Clinton tells Pakistan it's doing too little against Al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Then why can the islamists not win elections? they rarely exceed 10% of the vote in pakistan
    Apparently sympathy for islamic fundamentalists doesn't translate into votes.

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    Re: Hillary Clinton tells Pakistan it's doing too little against Al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Hillary Clinton tells Pakistan it's doing too little against Al Qaeda -- latimes.com



    I am happy to see a firm stance being taken with this Government that seems less than willing seriously go after Al Qaeda with the vigor needed. But they do have problems not too unlike those in Pakistan with the enemy looking like everyone else and the population in general fearing the bad guys so much they are reluctant to point fingers and help the government.
    I do however question the tactic of using sarcasm which puts our once reliable allies in a position that may not be conducive to cooperation at a time when it is needed most. It just doesn't seem very diplomatic to do this in a public way that is sure to piss them off at least a little. I would think that stern talk should be done in private so as not alienate people even if you're right. The old idiom, "digression is the better part of valor", would get better results in the long run.
    i think it's "discretion".........and i do think pakistan walks a fine line between the u.s. and aq.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Hillary Clinton tells Pakistan it's doing too little against Al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Apparently sympathy for islamic fundamentalists doesn't translate into votes.
    "It exists but theres no evidence for it" Great. I,l give you a hint, dislike of U.S policy in the region doesnt amount to sympapthy with islamists.

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    Re: Hillary Clinton tells Pakistan it's doing too little against Al Qaeda

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    "It exists but theres no evidence for it" Great. I,l give you a hint, dislike of U.S policy in the region doesnt amount to sympapthy with islamists.

    Why, of course not, and why is that? Because the radical islamic fascists would love nothing more than for America to cower back to our own borders, and wait for the next slaughter at their hands.


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