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    Re: Iran rejects diplomacy: its time for war

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Considering the way you said this. Yes you were calling him a liar. Unless you really are the Queen of Sheba?
    How do you know I'm not?

    The point is that reliance upon unverifiable claims of authority as a means of why one's argument is right opposed to actual arguments is a piss poor way of debate. Furthermore, I am exceedingly jaded about such claims of expertise especially after so many people have claimed such expertise and then utterly failed to show they understand the most basics of such fields. TD for instance in his utter failures to understand basic financing despite his claims of advanced degrees in finance and accounting. I frankly don't give a **** about your alleged experience. I want to see a decent argument.

    That statement had nothing to do with "circumstantial evidence" that you claim he has.
    It had everything to do with it. What he did was exactly what Rathi explained, he relied upon an unverifiable fallacy of appeal to authority and then utterly screwed it up. Someone who has allegedly lived in the region yet cannot even explain the application of Dutch Disease upon a resource rich region is pretty much full of crap. Remember that the majority of his arguments were not actually replies to mine. In fact he deliberately avoid many of my posts and all of my questions.

    It was telling him that he was a liar. If such personal expertise was worthless then there would be no experts used in courts of law.
    Except that such experts in the courts actually have experience and can back it up. Not to mention they have evidence.

    Rogerredy claiming he had 30 years of experience and then utterly failing to understand how oil wealth has perverted education, promoted government without representation and stunted democratic reforms while feeding easy money to terrorism is pretty much not credible. Furthermore, rather then address how terrorism is a tool used by governments, he defines it solely as attacks on Israel which further suggests he doesn't understand what terrorism is, namely a tool, he is merely applying his bias.

    Did he live there for 30 years? Maybe. Does it help his argument? No. Should I take his argument which was little more then lame attempts to call me a leftist at face value purely because he claimed he lived there for 30 years as valid at face value? Hell No. No more than I accept "financing" advice from a man who does not understand the concept of loans.
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    Re: Iran rejects diplomacy: its time for war

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    The point is that reliance upon unverifiable claims of authority as a means of why one's argument is right opposed to actual arguments is a piss poor way of debate. ....garbage deleted
    The point here child is that you personally attack and insult anyone who disagrees with you, and anyone with a different point of view than you has "no knowledge of what they are talking about," in your extremely immature opinion.

    That I do not respond more to you is because you are immature, and screaming, whining children do not deserve nor receive responses.

    How many people in a thread need to tell you to behave?

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    Re: Iran rejects diplomacy: its time for war

    Quote Originally Posted by rogerredy View Post
    The point here child is that you personally attack and insult anyone who disagrees with you
    Except that you did that right off the bat. My argument was that your reliance on circumstantial evidence was bull as Rathi again argued. You tried to insult me as a leftist several times to the point you deliberately ignored the majority of my points. Rather then actually address my main point (which you are again pretending does not exist as the challenges for you to back up your claims about how Dutch Disease does not remove government culpability), you'd rather rely upon insults.

    and anyone with a different point of view than you has "no knowledge of what they are talking about," in your extremely immature opinion.
    Except that I generally only say that to people where it is painfully clear they have no knowledge of what they are talking about. You for example. You claimed that my argument on Dutch Disease removed blame from the government. Except that anyone who understands Dutch Disease also knows right off the bat that Dutch Disease is partially due to the failure of government to deal with the explosion of wealth caused by natural resources upon their economy, currency and other industries. Several countries have managed Dutch Disease quite well due to proper government planning. Many have not. You writing my argument off that I don't blame governments because of citing Dutch Disease, which by the way only really came about as a concept in the 60s and 70s, well past colonization, shows you really have no knowledge of this subject. You failed right off the bat and you aren't mature enough to suck it up and admit you royally screwed up.

    I suspect you looked Dutch Disease up and then realized you were completely and totally wrong, but like most people here, completely unable to admit you were wrong. If that wasn't the case, you wouldn't have gone several posts deliberately avoiding it.

    That I do not respond more to you is because you are immature, and screaming, whining children do not deserve nor receive responses.
    See above. It's pretty obvious you don't want to discuss this because I will force to you back up your arguments and strip you of your sole weapon of labeling. Without labeling people, you have nothing. If that wasn't the case, you would have used something other then labeling. Notice you did not.

    How many people in a thread need to tell you to behave?
    How many people in this thread need to tell you not to rely on fallacies and actually address someone's argument?

    You are ignorant and your post shows it. Prove me wrong. If you can.
    "If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him." - Sun Tzu

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