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    October Is Bloodiest Month in Afghanistan

    1. October is already the bloodiest month in the 8-year history of the US war in Afghanistan.

    2. For the third month in the last four, US casualites have climbed to record numbers.

    3. The distressing deaths of 8 Americans on Tuesday, following the tragic termination of 14 in a pair of helicopter crashes on Monday, raised the rate of requiem in the region to 55, so far, with Halloween still a few days hence.

    4. Forty fighters fell in September, after 51 heroes were lost in August of this year.

    5. Eight Americans were martyred on October 3, when the enemy made a coordinated, 12 hour assault on our isolated outpost in Nuristan.

    6. A couple days later, we pulled out of that mountaintop on the moon.

    7. When the whirlybirds went down, the Pentagon promptly proposed they were flying mishaps, though their mission overflapping poppy fields implies otherwise.

    8. The president, meanwhile, has decided that he will soon decide, or not.

    9. That's sometime between the runoff between corrupt dictator Karzai and offended contender Abdullah Abudllah on November 7 and Obama's November 11 scheduled visit to Asia.

    10. It might or might not be coincidental that the decision-to-decide-date comes AFTER the gubernatorials of Virginia and New Jersey next Tuesday, November 3.

    11. On March 27, Obama announced his "new, comprehensive strategy" for Afghanistan which looked almost exactly like the blueprint pushed so publicly by General McChrystal.

    12. Indeed, by all accounts, the March 27 master plan was molded upon comprehensive information transmitted to the incoming administration by the former team managed by Mr. Meanie, Darth Cheney.

    13. Indeed, on August 17, Obama called Afghanistan a "war of necessity," and "not a war of choice."

    14. Victory, continued our confidence-challenged Commander in Chief, is "fundamental to the defense of our people."

    15. This was THREE DAYS, mind you, before the election in question which returned the dictator subsequently discovered to be corrupt.

    16. A week and a half hence, on August 30, McChrystal secreted an inclusive assessment to the White House setting forth all affairs in Afghanistan and suggesting a surge-like strategy for the troubled region.

    17. As Senator, you'll recall, Obama energetically opposed the Surge in Iraq which turned the tide there our way.

    18. That is, had Obama had his druthers at the time, America would have suffered an extreme set back, loss and dreadful defeat.

    19. Three weeks after sitting on McChrystal's assessment, Obama surged FIVE Sunday talks and dissembled: he had not yet received a report, the president prevaricated, and he had not received any request for reinforcements.

    20. The NEXT DAY, Watergate wonderboy Bob Woodward leaked in The Post the goods from the general, exposing Obama to extreme embarrassment, and more.

    21. Since then, the White House and its Pentagon have engaged in a PUBLIC dispute most unseemly.

    22. Obama's Defense Secretary, Robert Gates, sided with his folks in the field.

    23. Just this Tuesday it was revealed that the senior Pentagon official in Zabul, Matthew Hoh, stepped down from his position last September 10 out of principle.

    24. "I have lost understanding of and confidence in the strategic purposes of the United States presence in Afghanistan", related the retiree in a four page correspondence to his superiors.

    25. "I have doubts and reservations about our current strategy and planned future strategy, but my resignation is based not upon how we are pursuing this war, but why and to what end," continued the highly qualified consultant.

    26. "We took his letter very seriously," recounted Richard Holbrooke, Obama's ultra-experienced overseer of the illicit election, "because he was a good officer."

    27. "We all thought that given how serious his letter was, how much commitment there was, and his prior track record, we should pay close attention to it," held Holbrooke.

    28. As should we all.

    29. Indeed, Hoh was offered a promotion to senior embassy staff in Kabul after a face-to-face with Holbrooke, but the dutiful dissenter demurred.

    30. Indications are Obama, keeping with his compromising character, will choose some middle course when his dithering days are done.

    31. Word is he'll dispatch half the troops McChrystal calls for, while trying to hold "big cities and infrastructure," leaving the countryside to our cowardly attackers.

    32. The only reason we're over there, in the first place, is because of the centrality ceded this "right war" in the candidate's campaign, Obama's need to convince the electorate that, though he incisively inveighed against our involvement in Iraq, he was not your traditional anti-military, blame-America-first democrat.

    33. Now he's stuck with it, Afghanistan is Obama's War.

    34. Anything less than giving the general all he begs for will be perceived by non-partisans as the president playing politics with the safe keeping of our troops.

    35. Barack's base, meanwhile, is badly umbraged.

    36. Integrity will impel McChrystal to imitate Hoh's principled example.

    37. And others will likely follow along.

    38. Afghanistan is killing this president.

    Roadside bombs – the biggest killer of U.S. soldiers – claimed eight more American lives Tuesday, driving the U.S. death toll to a record level for the third time in four months as President Barack Obama nears a decision on a new strategy for the troubled war.
    October is bloodiest month yet for U.S. troops in Afghanistan - thestar.com


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    Re: October Is Bloodiest Month in Afghanistan

    it is about time we took the muther ****ers on

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    Re: October Is Bloodiest Month in Afghanistan

    Well, hell.

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    Re: October Is Bloodiest Month in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    11. On March 27, Obama announced his "new, comprehensive strategy" for Afghanistan which looked almost exactly like the blueprint pushed so publicly by General McChrystal.

    12. Indeed, by all accounts, the March 27 master plan was molded upon comprehensive information transmitted to the incoming administration by the former team managed by Mr. Meanie, Darth Cheney.
    Seriously, WTF happened? He was supposed to already be on top of this, what's he stalling for?

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    Re: October Is Bloodiest Month in Afghanistan

    wednesday's ny times, front page: karzai's brother, one of the world's leading opium pushers, is currently on the cia payroll

    the drug dealer was also bribed by w-stands-for-what's-his-name, the report puts forth

    now there's change cheech and chong can believe in

    Report: Afghan President's Brother Gets CIA Pay - Politics News Story - KSBW The Central Coast

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    Re: October Is Bloodiest Month in Afghanistan

    Fact is...these troops are being killed by Bush and Cheney's defeated Taliban.

    "That's why I said to the Taliban in Afghanistan: Get rid of al Qaeda; see, you're harboring al Qaeda. Remember this is a place where they trained -- al Qaeda trained thousands of people in Afghanistan. And the Taliban, I guess, just didn't believe me. And as a result of the United States military, Taliban no longer is in existence. And the people of Afghanistan are now free. (Applause.)"

    George W Bush
    September 27, 2004


    This was part of his great "Mission Accomplished" Speech..


    Aren't we lucky George and Dick were so honest and diligent about actually accomplishing a mission?

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    Re: October Is Bloodiest Month in Afghanistan

    one song sally sings on

    mcchrystal agrees with her

    mcchrystal agrees with me

    afghanistan is killing THIS president

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    Re: October Is Bloodiest Month in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    Fact is...these troops are being killed by Bush and Cheney's defeated Taliban.

    "That's why I said to the Taliban in Afghanistan: Get rid of al Qaeda; see, you're harboring al Qaeda. Remember this is a place where they trained -- al Qaeda trained thousands of people in Afghanistan. And the Taliban, I guess, just didn't believe me. And as a result of the United States military, Taliban no longer is in existence. And the people of Afghanistan are now free. (Applause.)"

    George W Bush
    September 27, 2004


    This was part of his great "Mission Accomplished" Speech..


    Aren't we lucky George and Dick were so honest and diligent about actually accomplishing a mission?




    When do you hold the current administration responsible for its decisions and indecision?
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

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    Re: October Is Bloodiest Month in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    1. October is already the bloodiest month in the 8-year history of the US war in Afghanistan.
    We've increased optempo and kinetic missions and are out of the FOBs and with the people. This was bound to happen, much like it did in Iraq when Petreaus took over and changed strategy. The helo crashes didn't help anything.

    2. For the third month in the last four, US casualites have climbed to record numbers.
    See above.

    3. The distressing deaths of 8 Americans on Tuesday, following the tragic termination of 14 in a pair of helicopter crashes on Monday, raised the rate of requiem in the region to 55, so far, with Halloween still a few days hence.
    Sad.

    4. Forty fighters fell in September, after 51 heroes were lost in August of this year.
    See above.

    5. Eight Americans were martyred on October 3, when the enemy made a coordinated, 12 hour assault on our isolated outpost in Nuristan.
    Tactical risk is sometimes just that.

    6. A couple days later, we pulled out of that mountaintop on the moon.
    The General's decision. Read this week's edition of the Army Times.

    7. When the whirlybirds went down, the Pentagon promptly proposed they were flying mishaps, though their mission overflapping poppy fields implies otherwise.
    And DEA agents on board...but I'm offended that you'd imply the military would lie about the nature of Soldier casualties.

    8. The president, meanwhile, has decided that he will soon decide, or not.
    See my post yesterday from Andrew Exum.

    9. That's sometime between the runoff between corrupt dictator Karzai and offended contender Abdullah Abudllah on November 7 and Obama's November 11 scheduled visit to Asia.
    I think it will be once the results come in.

    10. It might or might not be coincidental that the decision-to-decide-date comes AFTER the gubernatorials of Virginia and New Jersey next Tuesday, November 3.
    I'm not sure AFG has anything to do with that.

    11. On March 27, Obama announced his "new, comprehensive strategy" for Afghanistan which looked almost exactly like the blueprint pushed so publicly by General McChrystal.
    Except for the massive troop increases, yes.

    12. Indeed, by all accounts, the March 27 master plan was molded upon comprehensive information transmitted to the incoming administration by the former team managed by Mr. Meanie, Darth Cheney.
    That's what they say.

    13. Indeed, on August 17, Obama called Afghanistan a "war of necessity," and "not a war of choice."
    He did. So he better put his money where his mouth is.


    15. This was THREE DAYS, mind you, before the election in question which returned the dictator subsequently discovered to be corrupt.
    Any Afghan that is elected will be corrupt. It's their culture.

    23. Just this Tuesday it was revealed that the senior Pentagon official in Zabul, Matthew Hoh, stepped down from his position last September 10 out of principle.

    24. "I have lost understanding of and confidence in the strategic purposes of the United States presence in Afghanistan", related the retiree in a four page correspondence to his superiors.

    25. "I have doubts and reservations about our current strategy and planned future strategy, but my resignation is based not upon how we are pursuing this war, but why and to what end," continued the highly qualified consultant.

    26. "We took his letter very seriously," recounted Richard Holbrooke, Obama's ultra-experienced overseer of the illicit election, "because he was a good officer."

    27. "We all thought that given how serious his letter was, how much commitment there was, and his prior track record, we should pay close attention to it," held Holbrooke.

    28. As should we all.

    29. Indeed, Hoh was offered a promotion to senior embassy staff in Kabul after a face-to-face with Holbrooke, but the dutiful dissenter demurred.
    Hoh was not a Pentagon official, nor an FSO. He is a defense contractor with the State Dept.

    You are not entirely incorrect.

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    Re: October Is Bloodiest Month in Afghanistan

    you failed to echo my points 16 thru 22

    it's ok, i already made em

    already made em

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