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    Re: October Is Bloodiest Month in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    you failed to echo my points 16 thru 22
    It's because they are facts that I don't dispute. I'm not a partisan puke that's here to scream vitriol like a lot of folks on DP. You made some valid points and stated some poignant facts of which I agree. Some I disagreed with. If you don't want to refute them, that's fine...but I may start calling you "Navy Pride".

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    Re: October Is Bloodiest Month in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    I'm not a partisan puke
    yes, you've made that quite clear

    not real real intersting, but very clear

    but I may start calling you "Navy Pride".
    that would be beneath you

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    Re: October Is Bloodiest Month in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    yes, you've made that quite clear

    not real real intersting, but very clear
    Good.

    that would be beneath you

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    Hooah!

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    Re: October Is Bloodiest Month in Afghanistan

    Obama has sent more troops to Afghanistan since Bush in 2001/2002. He has sent in 34, 000 this year. I don't hear anybody blaming him for the rising death toll due to this, yet more troop=more deaths. Now the anti Obama crowd wants more troops in Afgh and you can bet when death tolls go up even higher, which is inevitable, then they'll be blaming him for either: 1. escalating, or, 2. dithering.

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    Re: October Is Bloodiest Month in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by tjinta ibis View Post
    Obama has sent more troops to Afghanistan since Bush in 2001/2002. He has sent in 34, 000 this year. I don't hear anybody blaming him for the rising death toll due to this, yet more troop=more deaths. Now the anti Obama crowd wants more troops in Afgh and you can bet when death tolls go up even higher, which is inevitable, then they'll be blaming him for either: 1. escalating, or, 2. dithering.
    It's not that simple. There are several more factors for increased casualties. Yes, more troops, but also a change in strategy. The companies and battalions are now living in "indian country" amongst the people, which means MORE kinetic activity, which of course results in more casualties.

    Additionally, the Taliban has now started employing more IEDs, taking a page from the book of the Iraqi insurgents.

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    Re: October Is Bloodiest Month in Afghanistan

    There once was this POTUS Barack,
    Bush's plan in Iraq he did mock,
    "Killin' Talliban is fair",
    He said with a flair,
    Now his Afghan plan - Oh, what a crock!
    Obama lied... Ambassador Stevens died!

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    Re: October Is Bloodiest Month in Afghanistan

    But make no mistake about it, his plan will mirror the Bush Doctrine. As he's doing and has been doing abroad since he strolled into office. He will continue to launch drone attacks against targets in Pakistan and Afghanistan. He will continue to build prisons and detain those that threaten either our forces or allied forces or civilians. He will follow the sofa agreement in Iraq almost to the tee. He will continue to implement the Patriot Act, his Gitmo plan is...uh...where?

    For the record....I have defended Gitmo since it's inception as I believe it an utter stroke of genius by the Bush Administration. On our shores but...not really on our shores. On a Naval Base...that's really not our naval base. It prevents both rescue or escape. It is not US territory...but it is US territory and a good argument why these men do not deserve our justice system or even the right to challenge their detentions. It allows for trials or tribunals. It isolates it from our citizenry, it is run by the military...it allows for sentences to be handed down...and then carried out.

    You'll find the answer to all the Gtimo questions that Obama wants to ask...wants to spend tens of millions of $ to "close"....you'll find Gitmo answers EVERY one of the questions regarding where, when, how, why, or what, it's simply an absolute stroke of genius.
    Last edited by Charles Martel; 10-29-09 at 04:35 PM.
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    Re: October Is Bloodiest Month in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Martel View Post
    For the record....I have defended Gitmo since it's inception as I believe it an utter stroke of genius by the Bush Administration. On our shores but...not really on our shores. On a Naval Base...that's really not our naval base. It prevents both rescue or escape. It is not US territory...but it is US territory and a good argument why these men do not deserve our justice system or even the right to challenge their detentions. It allows for trials or tribunals. It isolates it from our citizenry, it is run by the military...it allows for sentences to be handed down...and then carried out.
    And it allowed innocents (2/3 of them) to be holed up, tortured, and denied any access to plead their cases. Yes it was another evil stroke of genius by the W people.

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    Re: October Is Bloodiest Month in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    Fact is...these troops are being killed by Bush and Cheney's defeated Taliban.

    "That's why I said to the Taliban in Afghanistan: Get rid of al Qaeda; see, you're harboring al Qaeda. Remember this is a place where they trained -- al Qaeda trained thousands of people in Afghanistan. And the Taliban, I guess, just didn't believe me. And as a result of the United States military, Taliban no longer is in existence. And the people of Afghanistan are now free. (Applause.)"

    George W Bush
    September 27, 2004


    This was part of his great "Mission Accomplished" Speech..


    Aren't we lucky George and Dick were so honest and diligent about actually accomplishing a mission?
    I've got some good news and some bad news. The good news is that I agree with you about Bush and Cheney. Now for the bad news. Bush and Cheney are no longer in office. What does the future hold in store? Obama is responsible for the deaths of almost three hundred of our sons and daughters, and he is going to be destroyed the same way Bush was.

    My friend you are right about Bush, but that's simply irrelevant to me. If you support Obama on Afghanistan you had better get used to playing defense. Obama is going to get the Bush Treatment.

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    Re: October Is Bloodiest Month in Afghanistan

    I can't help but chuckle over this. Here is why:

    1) During Bush's term in office, every time Liberals posted about troops deaths, and Bush being responsible for them, they were called troop haters, terrorist supporters, and anti American.

    2) So, what do we have today? The very people who called Bush's opponents troop haters, terrorist supporters, and anti American are doing what the Liberals were doing, that is, calling out the president over troop deaths.

    So, I must ask the following:

    Are those bashing Obama over troop deaths troop haters, terrorist supporters, or anti American? Of course not. Neither were those who were bashing Bush over troop deaths during his administration. It all boils down to nothing more than the usual partisan hackery when it comes to this issue.

    So far, I am glad to see that the Obama bashers are not being told that they enjoy seeing our troops die.
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