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    Re: US drone strikes may break international law: UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And 8 years later...how far have we come? How much longer you want to go at this? How many more American lives do we need to throw at a mishandled and misguided war? How many more civilians in all sectors must perish, be destroyed, have their lives uprooted till we are satiated? We've killed well more than 3,000 civilians in the area, are we even yet?
    Since when are wars about being even?
    Wars are fought between two sides and end when one of the sides is defeated.
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    Re: US drone strikes may break international law: UN

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Wait wait wait...

    I'm still on this whole thing about them appointing Osama Bin Laden as Afghanistan's Commander in Chief...
    I'm not sure they even have a commander in chief.
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    Re: US drone strikes may break international law: UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Since when are wars about being even?
    Wars are fought between two sides and end when one of the sides is defeated.
    Declared war, sure. That ends in treaty. Undeclared, occupational, ideological warfare....not sure when that one ends...if it ends. That's one of the problems with what we are doing.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: US drone strikes may break international law: UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'll be as snarky as I want, I have the intellect to back it up. You've mischaracterized what I had written. The point was to address the real problems in the area and make some attempt at getting to a root cause.
    Right.

    So we should outlaw using RPV's and use F-18's to kill the terrorists.

    Better, yet, let's pretend their just criminals, not terrorists, and send the Messiah's Keystone Kopps in to slap the cuffs on them.

    It's amazing how the Left, who know nothing about war, feels confident in their silly solutions to real world problems.

    I see the thread got off track. The issue is RPF vs some other means of killing. Not the fact of killing itself.

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    What is losing the war in Afghanistan?
    More importantly, why hasn't your Messiah defined "victory" in that theatre and outlined a course expected to achieve it?


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    What are reasonable goals? It's not laid out.
    No, because your Messiah is incompetent and has done nothing right yet for anything.

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    What is the cost of "failure"?
    Dead Americans without victory.

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    What does "failure" look like?
    Dead Americans.

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    People keep saying these things, but no one (so it seems) has thought about any of this.
    I have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Do we even have legitimate power to go into Pakistan and bomb civilian areas claiming there are terrorists there?
    Power IS, it has no such thing as "legitimacy". The word you're seeking is "authority".

    And the answer is an unequivocable "yes".

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    For ****'s sake, when the hell did the US become God?
    1776, if you want to pretend it's God.

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    If we're not going to think about the root causes of any of this, we're not going to get to a solution.
    Hmmmm...the "root" cause....well, we helped Afghanistan defeat the Soviets, then we followed their wishes and left them alone.

    Then they attacked us for no reason.

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    Re: US drone strikes may break international law: UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And 8 years later...how far have we come?
    Not very far. You people insist on electing liberal president after liberal president after liberal president, then can't figure out why your president is an ass.

    Yes, I'm talking about Bush, Clinton, Bush, and the Messiah. They've all been "progressively" worse, if you catch the pun.

    And frankly, it doesn't matter. What matters is that we have to figure out our next step, and take it.

    Not that this has anything at all to do with imaginary distinctions between killing people with RPV's vs Aircraft with pilots on board.

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    Re: US drone strikes may break international law: UN

    Then they attacked us for no reason.
    :point:

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    Re: US drone strikes may break international law: UN

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari
    If we're not going to think about the root causes of any of this, we're not going to get to a solution.

    According to you throughout this thread the "root cause" seems to be America itself.


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    Re: US drone strikes may break international law: UN

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Wait wait wait...

    I'm still on this whole thing about them appointing Osama Bin Laden as Afghanistan's Commander in Chief...
    Yes, facts do tend to pass you by.

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    Re: US drone strikes may break international law: UN

    Since you're full of facts, was Osama appointed democratically?

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    Re: US drone strikes may break international law: UN

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Since you're full of facts, was Osama appointed democratically?
    Question lacks relevance.

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