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    Venezuela seizes 'Colombia spies'

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    IMO Chavez is just seeking a reason, any reason to commence a war against Columbia.

    Or am I reading his intentions incorrectly?

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    Re: Venezuela seizes 'Colombia spies'

    Who knows. What would Chavez gain in a war with columbia?

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    Re: Venezuela seizes 'Colombia spies'

    My first thought when ever I see another story about Chavez is to look for a parallel in history to actions of other leftists. This time I question the authenticity of the charges because I think back to what I know about excuses used in the past to justify expansionism through force. In 1939 Hitler faked an attack from Poland as an excuse to justify his invasion. That is what comes to mind because Chavez has been using the NAZI play book as a guideline to follow in most of his actions. What is even more disturbing is Chavez has a Pal here in our country that has surrounded himself with Communists, Radicals, and Mao worshipers who has espoused some of the same NAZI ideals from the take over of businesses, to euthanasia, eugenics, and forced birth control and much more.
    As to what Chavez would gain I'm not sure you need to look much past the power trip and the drug trade. Most of these Leftist have inflated egos and envision themselves World leaders and controllers of large areas vast populations. Try not to let logic enter too much into your thoughts when trying to figure out what he has in mind, because logic seldom comes into play when these people come up with their grandiose plans. look around.
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    Re: Venezuela seizes 'Colombia spies'

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    That is what comes to mind because Chavez has been using the NAZI play book as a guideline to follow in most of his actions. What is even more disturbing is Chavez has a Pal here in our country that has surrounded himself with Communists, Radicals, and Mao worshipers who has espoused some of the same NAZI ideals from the take over of businesses, to euthanasia, eugenics, and forced birth control and much more.
    1st... What?
    2nd... So he knows a guy who you think is a nazi?

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    Re: Venezuela seizes 'Colombia spies'

    Its perfectly plausible that Chavez made the whole thing up, its equally possible that they really are spies. Need more evidence before I'll start throwing around the Nazi accusations at least. Not to mention that blaming this on Obama is setting a new low for pathetic partisan lameness.

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    Re: Venezuela seizes 'Colombia spies'

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Its perfectly plausible that Chavez made the whole thing up, its equally possible that they really are spies. Need more evidence before I'll start throwing around the Nazi accusations at least. Not to mention that blaming this on Obama is setting a new low for pathetic partisan lameness.
    1st... What?
    2nd... So he knows a guy who you think is a nazi?
    Who is blaming anything on Obama and no one that I have seen made NAZI accusations. It's called drawing a parallel and those who know history or can read need only look at history to see the play book at work. By the way NAZI stands for National Socialist Party.

    People with the ability to read and think know that Obama have appointed way more than one Communist, and way more than one or two radicals who's reputation and own words say they they want nothing more than the destruction of this nation.

    It is a tactic from Saul Alinskey's rules for radicals to project your thoughts on to others ignoring what was said in essence creating a straw man you can attack. Everyone try to read and understand what was said not what you think it meant. One see and point out similarities in the actions of two people without it being name calling.
    Get a grip Obama is clearly a Socialist there I said it for you. Now try to prove he's not. I have lots of his quotes to show not only that but that he's a prolific liar. But this is about Chavez and his actions that are right out of the Socialist/Communist play book. When it comes to false stories from 1930s Germany just read the story of the usurpation of the German Constitution after the Reichstag Fire Decree suspended most civil liberties. But then that would require reading the true story of the fire and the killing of people who were blamed when in fact those who did the deed were the ones making the charges that cost about 50 people their lives and made it possible for Hitler could become the Dictator some know and love.

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    Re: Venezuela seizes 'Colombia spies'

    Who is blaming anything on Obama and no one that I have seen made NAZI accusations.
    Its a guy named councilman, you may have seen him around on the boards.

    It's called drawing a parallel and those who know history or can read need only look at history to see the play book at work.
    Yes, Obama is following the standard NAZI tactic of getting a random country in South America to claim they captured some spies.

    People with the ability to read and think know that Obama have appointed way more than one Communist, and way more than one or two radicals who's reputation and own words say they they want nothing more than the destruction of this nation.
    So Obama is showing his NAZI tendencies by appointing their most hated enemies, the communists?

    Get a grip Obama is clearly a Socialist there I said it for you. Now try to prove he's not.
    Obama has not tried to remove private ownership of the means of production so he really isn't a socialist. Best you can would be social democrat.

    But this is about Chavez and his actions that are right out of the Socialist/Communist play book. When it comes to false stories from 1930s Germany just read the story of the usurpation of the German Constitution after the Reichstag Fire Decree suspended most civil liberties.
    Have Chavez use this in order to suspend the constitution? There isn't even currently anything proving that the spies aren't actually Columbian spies.

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    Re: Venezuela seizes 'Colombia spies'

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Who knows. What would Chavez gain in a war with columbia?
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    Re: Venezuela seizes 'Colombia spies'

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
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    IMO Chavez is just seeking a reason, any reason to commence a war against Columbia.

    Or am I reading his intentions incorrectly?
    Chavez would get his ass stomped in a war with Colombia. He is certainly aware of this fact. Besides, what could he possibly gain?
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    Re: Venezuela seizes 'Colombia spies'

    What does this event have to do with Chavez?
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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