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    Report: Amtrak loss comes to $32 per passenger

    Amtrak Loses $32 Per PassengerWASHINGTON (AP) -- U.S. taxpayers spent about $32 subsidizing the cost of the typical Amtrak passenger in 2008, about four times the rail operator's estimate, according to a private study.

    Amtrak operates a nationwide rail network, serving more than 500 destinations in 46 states. Forty-one of Amtrak's 44 routes lost money in 2008, said the study by Subsidyscope, an arm of the Pew Charitable Trusts.

    Stephen Van Beek, president of the Eno Transportation Foundation, a think tank, said the analysis could help guide decisions on how to spend $8 billion set aside for high-speed and intercity rail in a $787 billion economic stimulus bill. Rail planners may decide that spending the funds on high-speed rail makes more sense than slower intercity rail, which the Amtrak numbers show need higher subsidies.

    Subsidyscope says its review counted certain capital expenses that Amtrak doesn't consider when calculating the financial performance of its routes, namely wear and tear on equipment, or depreciation.

    Leading the list was the train traveling between San Antonio and Los Angeles -- the Sunset Limited -- which lost $462 per passenger. Taxpayers subsidize the losses to keep the passenger train service running.
    Quick check with Travelocity:...Travelocity is down, Expedia says it costs $219 - round trip, to go from LA to San Antonio.

    So Amtrak's losses, per passenger, are MORE THAN TWICE what it cost to fly there, assuming the Amtrak loss is based on a round trip fare.

    Now, the Messiah is PROMISING that his MessiahCare scam won't add to the national debt. Why should we trust a government that can't run a railroad to run 1/6 of the nation's economy?

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    Re: And You Want the Government to Run Health Care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Quick check with Travelocity:...Travelocity is down, Expedia says it costs $219 - round trip, to go from LA to San Antonio.

    So Amtrak's losses, per passenger, are MORE THAN TWICE what it cost to fly there, assuming the Amtrak loss is based on a round trip fare.

    Now, the Messiah is PROMISING that his MessiahCare scam won't add to the national debt. Why should we trust a government that can't run a railroad to run 1/6 of the nation's economy?
    the government is not going to "run" healthcare. where did you get that idea?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: And You Want the Government to Run Health Care?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    the government is not going to "run" healthcare. where did you get that idea?
    Where did you get the notion it wont be?

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    Re: And You Want the Government to Run Health Care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Where did you get the notion it wont be?
    i asked first.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: And You Want the Government to Run Health Care?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Quick check with Travelocity:...Travelocity is down, Expedia says it costs $219 - round trip, to go from LA to San Antonio.

    So Amtrak's losses, per passenger, are MORE THAN TWICE what it cost to fly there, assuming the Amtrak loss is based on a round trip fare.

    Now, the Messiah is PROMISING that his MessiahCare scam won't add to the national debt. Why should we trust a government that can't run a railroad to run 1/6 of the nation's economy?
    Why should we trust a government that lied about Social Security, lied about Medicare and runs a program that has had tons of fraudulent claims filed (according to CBS 60 minutes).


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    Re: And You Want the Government to Run Health Care?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    the government is not going to "run" healthcare. where did you get that idea?


    Liblady, allow me to give you an analogy to illustrate the point of the Gubmint take over of our Health systems.

    Let's say you and I both own a coffee shop, on opposing corners of a well traveled intersection in town, ok?

    You, and I make about the same types of coffee, and the quality is comparable.

    Now, lets say that while you charge $2.00 for a large cup of 'joe', I can print my own money, and give away my coffee for free.

    how long will you stay in business?


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    Re: And You Want the Government to Run Health Care?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i asked first.
    .......

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    Re: And You Want the Government to Run Health Care?

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Liblady, allow me to give you an analogy to illustrate the point of the Gubmint take over of our Health systems.

    Let's say you and I both own a coffee shop, on opposing corners of a well traveled intersection in town, ok?

    You, and I make about the same types of coffee, and the quality is comparable.

    Now, lets say that while you charge $2.00 for a large cup of 'joe', I can print my own money, and give away my coffee for free.

    how long will you stay in business?


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    Bravo!

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    Re: And You Want the Government to Run Health Care?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    the government is not going to "run" healthcare. where did you get that idea?
    Because I'm honest, and I can read, especially the writing on the wall.

    Stealing, it's what socialists do best. And these socialists in Washington are bent on stealing entire industries.

    So, getting back to the point, why should anyone trust the government with running health care?

    Do I also have to point to the huge losses the Messiah Hisself admitted exist in Medicare and Medicaid? You know, those losses that His Holiness was going to fix so His theft of 1/6 of the nation's economy would be "deficit neutral"?

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    Re: And You Want the Government to Run Health Care?

    Why is following the simple rules posted at the top of the forum so hard? Title of thread must match title of article. It's simple.
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