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    Re: Get ready for non-Latin letter domain names

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Well, first of all, you CAN have more than internet; you just need to network a few networks. It need not be connected to what we call The Internet.
    Of course I can have more than internet. I can have cable tv, phone and a sandwich too. Just joking.

    I understand that you are using the term 'internet' generically, where as I am not.
    In today's day and age The Internet/Internet/The Web, etc... has one specific meaning, and I am sure you know it.
    Anything else is just a network until given it's own name.
    e.g.: If someone tells you they found an interesting product on the Internet, and you want to look it up also; Are you going to go to an Internet2 access point or to your standard Internet access point?
    Get the point?
    Although there are many internets, there is only one Internet, just as there is only one Internet2.
    I think the problems lies in how the original question was asked. You capitalized Internet, which may or may not have to do with the words used in spell-check being incomplete.



    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    In fact, one of the reasons for the recent ICANN changes was that US control OVER ICANN was prompting some countries to develop alternate internets. The changes were meant to discourage that.
    The problem lied in how the question was asked.
    From what I have seen reported, it is that they are developing alternatives to the Internet, and even though they are internetworks or internets, they are not the Internet and would most likely have different names and different internetworking protocol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Search is not the only means to find a website. There are many types of advertising companies and many people do type in the domains directly instead of going through a search engine. Not ot mention the plain readability of the domain within a message.

    Are you able to remember the domain if you saw a TV ad telling you to visit 简体中文版?
    And that doesn't open it up to more people.
    Sure, it makes it easier for a business to advertise to it's own populous. I never disputed that.
    But it does not open it up to more people.




    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Why should a Chinese site written in Chinese for Chinese be forced to have an English domain?
    They are?
    If you would like to rephrase your question to pertain to Latin letters, then I have already answered your question.
    Standardization.




    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    It's already easy for any country to limit internet access. A "access package" similar to Cable TV is completely doable even now. Thus limiting what you can and cannot see.
    I guess you didn't get the point being made.
    I believe I said it will make it easier.
    Or would you prefer that I said it opens up another avenue to block wholesale access by the language contained in the url.
    If you do not understand that another avenue to limit access makes things easier... sorry.

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    Re: Get ready for non-Latin letter domain names

    But English is already the lingua Franca.
    Quod scripsi, scripsi

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    Re: Get ready for non-Latin letter domain names

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    But English is already the lingua Franca.
    Only a minority who are educated speak it, in the grand scheme.

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    Re: Get ready for non-Latin letter domain names

    Quote Originally Posted by Coolguy View Post
    And that doesn't open it up to more people.
    Sure, it makes it easier for a business to advertise to it's own populous. I never disputed that.
    But it does not open it up to more people.
    It increases conversion rates on lead generation and makes it easier to access domains in multiple ways.

    Even if it doesn't physically increase the number of internet users in other countries it does increase the ease of use and there is really not reason to not open domains.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coolguy View Post
    They are?
    If you would like to rephrase your question to pertain to Latin letters, then I have already answered your question.
    Standardization.
    Semantics. You obviously know what I was referring to.
    Quote Originally Posted by Coolguy View Post
    I guess you didn't get the point being made.
    I believe I said it will make it easier.
    Or would you prefer that I said it opens up another avenue to block wholesale access by the language contained in the url.
    If you do not understand that another avenue to limit access makes things easier... sorry.
    Governments can already block whatever they want. You have domain extensions, language settings in meta tags, server addresses, trace routing, etc.

    Freedoms of the Individual should not be limited because of what the government may or may not do.
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    Re: Get ready for non-Latin letter domain names

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    It increases conversion rates on lead generation ...
    Increases conversion rates on lead generation?
    Really?
    Convince me how allowing non-Latin script will increase conversion rates on lead generation.




    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    ... and makes it easier to access domains in multiple ways.
    No.
    Access will not really be any easier.




    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    ... and there is really not reason to not open domains.
    Yeah ok.
    As long as there are in the previously standardized Latin script.

    And btw, standardization makes things easier.
    Removing standardization does not.




    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Semantics. You obviously know what I was referring to.
    Really; Semantics?
    I don't think so unless you are in the habit of posting what you don't mean.
    You said English and there is no such requirement.

    Now if it was a matter of semantics, as you suggest, you already knew my answer to the question was posted, and therefore no reason to ask.
    But you did ask.
    Semantics? I think not.




    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Governments can already block whatever they want. You have domain extensions, language settings in meta tags, server addresses, trace routing, etc.
    And now they have another which will make it easier.
    If you do not understand that another avenue to limit access makes things easier... sorry.





    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Freedoms of the Individual should not be limited because of what the government may or may not do.
    Freedoms of the Individual?
    Really?
    These so-called freedoms were not really being limited by a requirement of using Latin script.
    That is a hilarious argument.
    But the freedoms of individuals will be limited with greater ease with the change, and that is a valid reason to oppose said change to allow non-Latin script.

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    Re: Get ready for non-Latin letter domain names

    Quote Originally Posted by Coolguy View Post
    Increases conversion rates on lead generation?
    Really?
    Convince me how allowing non-Latin script will increase conversion rates on lead generation.
    Those that do not understand Latin script can easily access domains by using their native script and most likely the script that website content is written in. It's not rocket science.



    Quote Originally Posted by Coolguy View Post
    No.
    Access will not really be any easier.
    Yes it will.





    Quote Originally Posted by Coolguy View Post
    Yeah ok.
    As long as there are in the previously standardized Latin script.

    And btw, standardization makes things easier.
    Removing standardization does not.
    Standardization does make things easier. Forcing people, or limiting their ability, to access websites in a script they do not understand does not.



    Quote Originally Posted by Coolguy View Post
    Really; Semantics?
    I don't think so unless you are in the habit of posting what you don't mean.
    You said English and there is no such requirement.

    Now if it was a matter of semantics, as you suggest, you already knew my answer to the question was posted, and therefore no reason to ask.
    But you did ask.
    Semantics? I think not.
    I said English but you obviously understood I meant Latin script since that is the context of this entire discussion and you responded with mentioning I meant Latin script.



    Quote Originally Posted by Coolguy View Post
    Freedoms of the Individual?
    Really?
    These so-called freedoms were not really being limited by a requirement of using Latin script.
    That is a hilarious argument.
    But the freedoms of individuals will be limited with greater ease with the change, and that is a valid reason to oppose said change to allow non-Latin script.
    You are forcing people that cannot read Latin script to access sites written in Latin script. What's next? Force all cultures to change the script their language is written in to Latin? Why not just force everyone on the planet to learn to read and write English so that we can have real standardization?

    How are freedoms of individuals limited by allowing people to create domain names in their own native script?
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