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    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    Nope they are still there. Everything has been streamlined into Brigades (now there are four) as I'm sure you know.

    Yeah, they were just starting that as I was on my way out.....Playing around with concepts of a strike unit, coupled with a maint unit, and hospital unit all in the same battalion for quick insertion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, they were just starting that as I was on my way out.....Playing around with concepts of a strike unit, coupled with a maint unit, and hospital unit all in the same battalion for quick insertion.
    Yeah, I think the Brigade and BN TF concepts have streamlined so much, particularly in regards to logistics. I think it was good.

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    Re: U.S. official resigns over Afghan war

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    Yeah, I think the Brigade and BN TF concepts have streamlined so much, particularly in regards to logistics. I think it was good.

    It was a real wake up call for Maint units especially, used to being back behind the lines in terms of mission, but we got a real charge of being out there with the real eagles. We all had our wings, of course couldn't step into the base with out the commanding General demanding that you attain them, but to do the exercises with the actual AAsualt forces gave us all a real return to the real mission.


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    Re: U.S. official resigns over Afghan war

    And now the NYT reports that Karzai's brother, an opium smuggling war lord, is on the payroll of the CIA. So let me see if I've got this straight? We don't like Pres Karzai stealing the election, but smuggling opium is AOK?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/28/wo..._r=1&th&emc=th

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    Re: U.S. official resigns over Afghan war

    Quote Originally Posted by tjinta ibis View Post
    And now the NYT reports that Karzai's brother, an opium smuggling war lord, is on the payroll of the CIA. So let me see if I've got this straight? We don't like Pres Karzai stealing the election, but smuggling opium is AOK?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/28/wo..._r=1&th&emc=th
    two questions:

    1) What authority does the NYT have to release classified information.

    2) How accurate is the information which is attributed to an anonymous source?

    Sounds like a criminal investigation should be launched to find how the NYT got this information and to look into prosecuting the journalists who released it.
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    Re: U.S. official resigns over Afghan war

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    Thanks.



    Well, as I said, "exit plans" aren't really applicable in a full on COIN strategy.



    Oil was hardly the motive in Iraq, since we didn't take any. Motive in AFG? National security.



    I wouldn't call AFG a failure, because to fail, you must have clearly defined goals that aren't met. We haven't done that. If you think about it, Obama didn't have much of a choice but to jump on the AFG bandwagon. He was so anti-Iraq that to also be anti-AFG would have hurt him politically. I think the "change" part in AFG was to set goals and implement a strategy, which we are still waiting on...



    No, but on something as critical as AFG, you don't expect to intentions to change so quickly.



    I don't know any prominent liberal who called for targeting Saudis.



    I agree with you there. But don't forget that the majority of Democrats voted for War in Iraq, something they seem to forget sometimes.
    Just for the record, the Saudis remark was in parenthesis, as it was in jest. It was an attempt to point out that both parties were either misled or misleading when involving us in this. I mean, OBL may have been hiding in Afghanistan (or Pakistan), but the majority of the hijackers were Saudis, but obviously, we can't rock that boat.

    And I respect your points, but I do not see Afghanistan and/or Iraq as anything BUT a geopolitical power grab.

    In all, I tend to agree with Hoh, that there is more of a threat to our national security by staying with the status quo, rather than leaving.

    As long as we are in bed with nation's such as the Saudi Arabia, whose human rights record is worse than Iraq's was under Hussein, I don't see our current occupations as anything more than a catalyst for violence in the Middle East.

    And we won't convince anyone we are a noble nation who disposes of tyrannical dictators if we continue to intervene in the Mid East while we watch complacently as Africa is ravaged by loose knit war lords who engage in genocide.

    Anyway, good discussion.

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