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    Conservatives roar; Republicans tremble

    Conservatives roar; Republicans tremble - Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen - POLITICO.com

    Many top Republicans are growing worried that the party’s chances for reversing its electoral routs of 2006 and 2008 are being wounded by the flamboyant rhetoric and angry tone of conservative activists and media personalities, according to interviews with GOP officials and operatives.

    Congressional leaders talk in private of being boxed in by commentators such as Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh — figures who are wildly popular with the conservative base but wildly controversial among other parts of the electorate, and who have proven records of making life miserable for senators and House members critical of their views or influence.

    Some of the leading 2012 candidates are described by operatives as grappling with the same tension. The challenge is to tap into the richest source of energy in the party — the disgust of grass-roots conservative activists with President Barack Obama and their hunger for a full-throated attack on his agenda — without coming off to the broader public as cranky and extreme.

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    The Republicans are trembling because the conseratives are roaring to the RightWing base.
    They feel that they are now painted into a corner by the likes of Limbaugh and Beck. Funny how they will support each other up to a certain point. That point seems to lie in the area of their nature of one having the need to blame SOMEBODY for their failures.
    Health Care is on the verge of passing and apparently with the public option.
    This would be considered within the conservative movement to be a total failure. They have to blame somebody and all of their attacks on this administration have fallen on deaf ears. There only choice is to start blaming people on their own side of the aisle. Blaming is their nature.
    Is this the beginning of the internal combustion of the Republican party?

    Pull up some chairs folks and enjoy the laughs...there will be many laughs to come.

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    Re: Conservatives roar; Republicans tremble

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    Conservatives roar; Republicans tremble - Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen - POLITICO.com

    Many top Republicans are growing worried that the party’s chances for reversing its electoral routs of 2006 and 2008 are being wounded by the flamboyant rhetoric and angry tone of conservative activists and media personalities, according to interviews with GOP officials and operatives.

    Congressional leaders talk in private of being boxed in by commentators such as Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh — figures who are wildly popular with the conservative base but wildly controversial among other parts of the electorate, and who have proven records of making life miserable for senators and House members critical of their views or influence.

    Some of the leading 2012 candidates are described by operatives as grappling with the same tension. The challenge is to tap into the richest source of energy in the party — the disgust of grass-roots conservative activists with President Barack Obama and their hunger for a full-throated attack on his agenda — without coming off to the broader public as cranky and extreme.

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    The Republicans are trembling because the conseratives are roaring to the RightWing base.
    They feel that they are now painted into a corner by the likes of Limbaugh and Beck. Funny how they will support each other up to a certain point. That point seems to lie in the area of their nature of one having the need to blame SOMEBODY for their failures.
    Health Care is on the verge of passing and apparently with the public option.
    This would be considered within the conservative movement to be a total failure. They have to blame somebody and all of their attacks on this administration have fallen on deaf ears. There only choice is to start blaming people on their own side of the aisle. Blaming is their nature.
    Is this the beginning of the internal combustion of the Republican party?

    Pull up some chairs folks and enjoy the laughs...there will be many laughs to come.
    Are you trying to channel Jim Jones or what?

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    Re: Conservatives roar; Republicans tremble

    I don't know enough about the writers of this article to know if they have an agenda in the tone or if it is in fact a real concern of republicans who have in recent years strayed from the model set down for us by Ronald Reagan.
    I believe what is needed is a leader who is set in and is comfortable with his Conservative ways and has pragmatic realistic ideas for solutions that are logical achievable and can be communicated to the people in such a way as to make them understand his or her positions. I believe such a leader would be seen in short order as a Statesman and could garner the support of not only the Republican party but that of Independents, and Libertarians alike. Someone with ideas too solve the energy mess and environmental issues at the same time are not rocket science and are available off the shelf without causing economic hardship, in fact I can think of ways to address all these issues that would create jobs without draconian measures that would be compromises that should satisfy all but the most radical groups.
    The problem with the party as it stands now is that too many see the important thing is party success when the focus needs to be on the Nations success and to hell with the party. It's about the future of our children's children that needs to be the focus and not getting rid of the other party. By presenting policies that they too can embrace because it's the right thing to do there is no end to the possibilities for success.
    Sadly few people these days have the management and decision making experience and the ability to speak in public without doing an Obama impression and usin um and ah as the words used most when trying to convey a cogent thought.
    But this is just what I think. I happen to believe I'm right though.
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    Re: Conservatives roar; Republicans tremble

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    Conservatives roar; Republicans tremble - Jim VandeHei and Mike Allen - POLITICO.com

    Many top Republicans are growing worried that the party’s chances for reversing its elec. . . de of the aisle. Blaming is their nature.
    Is this the beginning of the internal combustion of the Republican party?

    Pull up some chairs folks and enjoy the laughs...there will be many laughs to come.
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    Re: Conservatives roar; Republicans tremble

    Many top Republicans are growing worried that the party’s chances for reversing its electoral routs of 2006 and 2008 are being wounded by the flamboyant rhetoric and angry tone of conservative activists and media personalities, according to interviews with GOP officials and operatives.
    What top republicans are saying that?

    I just read that entire article, and nowhere in it did I see a quote from any "top republican" that said a word about "commentators such as Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh". Even the quotes from Tim Pawlenty, Karl Rove, and Eric Cantor didn't say anything about conservative personalities and activists. All they were talking about were generalizations and election strategies.

    This paragraph on page 2 seems to contradict the message they wanted readers to believe on page 1:

    The only Republicans standing up to Beck and other conservative activists right now are familiar iconoclasts like Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and New York Times columnist David Brooks — both of whom are distrusted by many Republicans for their frequent departures from conservative orthodoxy.
    I think you've been fed a line of crap personally... If you read it very carefully, I think many of you will come to believe as I do, that this whole article stinks of liberal bs and quotes taken out of context.

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    Re: Conservatives roar; Republicans tremble

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    What top republicans are saying that?

    I just read that entire article, and nowhere in it did I see a quote from any "top republican" that said a word about "commentators such as Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh". Even the quotes from Tim Pawlenty, Karl Rove, and Eric Cantor didn't say anything about conservative personalities and activists. All they were talking about were generalizations and election strategies.

    This paragraph on page 2 seems to contradict the message they wanted readers to believe on page 1:



    I think you've been fed a line of crap personally... If you read it very carefully, I think many of you will come to believe as I do, that this whole article stinks of liberal bs and quotes taken out of context.

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    Lindsey Grahamesty? OMG, I hope they are counting him among true conservatives? He's about as far left as the Republicans go.
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    Re: Conservatives roar; Republicans tremble

    1984, Reagan, the model of a Conservative President... won 49 states.

    1994, the Conservative resurgence in the House.

    Contrast 2006, 2008 when the "party of the Republicans" got their asses handed to them for moderation and being the kid brothers to the Democrats.

    Hmmm.... over whelming success or continued mediocrity.... I dunno, seems a no brainer to me.
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    Re: Conservatives roar; Republicans tremble

    With all the dissatisfaction of the Democrates, the conservative base is saying you can't be a centrist in the Republican party. I hope they do **** it up for Republicans, then both the party and the base might learn something.

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    Re: Conservatives roar; Republicans tremble

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    With all the dissatisfaction of the Democrates, the conservative base is saying you can't be a centrist in the Republican party. I hope they do **** it up for Republicans, then both the party and the base might learn something.
    Well if you look at polls, people are more dissatisfied with Republicans by a wide margin than Democrats.. Also I read in a new poll that only 21% of American's call themselves Republican these days.. lowest since 1983.
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    Re: Conservatives roar; Republicans tremble

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Well if you look at polls, people are more dissatisfied with Republicans by a wide margin than Democrats.. Also I read in a new poll that only 21% of American's call themselves Republican these days.. lowest since 1983.
    Hey! You're European aren't you? What are you doing on a US Politics thread? Y'all follow our politics?

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