Page 3 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 45

Thread: Interview with Charles Krauthammer: 'Obama is Average'

  1. #21
    Too big to fail
    niftydrifty's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Last Seen
    03-03-16 @ 03:20 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,725

    Re: Interview with Charles Krauthammer: 'Obama is Average'

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Where CK said that Obama was being "political" like you stated.
    Did you read a different interview with Krauthammer?

    po·lit·i·cal
    Pronunciation: \pə-ˈli-ti-kəl\
    Function: adjective
    Etymology: Latin politicus
    Date: 1551

    of, relating to, involving, or involved in politics and especially party politics

    what I said was:

    I'm amused when pundits criticize politicians that they don't agree with, for being 'political.' what president in history has not made more promises than they could keep?
    "A man of perpetual promise." Gee, sounds familiar.

    "There are 43 million uninsured Americans – 4 million more than when the current administration took office. George W. Bush will reverse this trend by making health insurance affordable for hard-working, low-income families."

    "George W. Bush will establish the 'Healthy Communities Innovation Fund' to provide $500 million in grants over five years to fund innovative projects addressing targeted health risks, such as childhood diabetes."

    "As President, Governor Bush will…pay the debt down to a historically low level."

    "The Social Security surplus must be locked away only for Social Security."

    "Governor Bush's income tax cuts will benefit all Americans, but they are especially focused on low and moderate income families."

    "[B]y far the vast majority of my tax cuts go to the bottom end of the spectrum."

    "To restore confidence in government, [George W. Bush] will...attack pork-barrel spending."

    "To restore confidence in government, George W. Bush will...return civility to the nomination process."

    George W. Bush will "fully fund the Pell grant program for first-year students by increasing the maximum grant amount by more than 50 percent"

    George W. Bush "will also ensure that the federal government, which is the country's largest polluter, complies with all environmental laws."

    What did CK say when Bush accomplished (nor even tried to accomplish) not one of those things?

    "A vacation Bush deserves" - Charles Krauthammer, 8/13/2001
    Last edited by niftydrifty; 10-27-09 at 11:03 PM.
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=3227&dateline=1247527  127

  2. #22
    Banned
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Last Seen
    07-23-12 @ 03:52 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    6,763
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Interview with Charles Krauthammer: 'Obama is Average'

    Quote Originally Posted by niftydrifty View Post
    What did CK say when Bush accomplished (nor even tried to accomplish) not one of those things?
    I don't know, I don't follow him as closely as you are. So what if he's biased. Doesn't mean what he says isn't well thought out. It is well thought out, you just don't like what he has to say.

  3. #23
    Too big to fail
    niftydrifty's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Last Seen
    03-03-16 @ 03:20 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,725

    Re: Interview with Charles Krauthammer: 'Obama is Average'

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I don't know, I don't follow him as closely as you are. So what if he's biased. Doesn't mean what he says isn't well thought out. It is well thought out, you just don't like what he has to say.
    "Well thought out." That's a curious way to put it.

    Double standards for different presidents. A blatantly false statement about accomplishments. An appeal to popularity. A myopic point of view that makes conclusions about big picture or history for a president he doesn't like, 9 months in, but says "wait and see" for a president he does like after 1, 2, 3, even 8 years. Confusing fringe with mainstream opinions. Criticizing a politician for being ... political.

    Nothing about Charles Krauthammer is "well thought out."
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=3227&dateline=1247527  127

  4. #24
    Professor
    Dutch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Northern Arkansas
    Last Seen
    08-23-17 @ 09:19 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    1,808

    Re: Interview with Charles Krauthammer: 'Obama is Average'

    Quote Originally Posted by niftydrifty View Post
    cool, let's discuss me. I'm so much more interesting than the topic, anyway!

    I'm not plural.

    and secondly, I had a Ron Paul sign in my yard most of last year.
    So......you threw your vote away.

  5. #25
    Professor
    Dutch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Northern Arkansas
    Last Seen
    08-23-17 @ 09:19 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    1,808

    Re: Interview with Charles Krauthammer: 'Obama is Average'

    Quote Originally Posted by niftydrifty View Post
    Did you read a different interview with Krauthammer?

    po·lit·i·cal
    Pronunciation: \pə-ˈli-ti-kəl\
    Function: adjective
    Etymology: Latin politicus
    Date: 1551

    of, relating to, involving, or involved in politics and especially party politics

    what I said was:



    "A man of perpetual promise." Gee, sounds familiar.

    "There are 43 million uninsured Americans – 4 million more than when the current administration took office. George W. Bush will reverse this trend by making health insurance affordable for hard-working, low-income families."

    "George W. Bush will establish the 'Healthy Communities Innovation Fund' to provide $500 million in grants over five years to fund innovative projects addressing targeted health risks, such as childhood diabetes."

    "As President, Governor Bush will…pay the debt down to a historically low level."

    "The Social Security surplus must be locked away only for Social Security."

    "Governor Bush's income tax cuts will benefit all Americans, but they are especially focused on low and moderate income families."

    "[B]y far the vast majority of my tax cuts go to the bottom end of the spectrum."

    "To restore confidence in government, [George W. Bush] will...attack pork-barrel spending."

    "To restore confidence in government, George W. Bush will...return civility to the nomination process."

    George W. Bush will "fully fund the Pell grant program for first-year students by increasing the maximum grant amount by more than 50 percent"

    George W. Bush "will also ensure that the federal government, which is the country's largest polluter, complies with all environmental laws."

    What did CK say when Bush accomplished (nor even tried to accomplish) not one of those things?

    "A vacation Bush deserves" - Charles Krauthammer, 8/13/2001
    Don't like all the mean things krauthammer said about obama......trash what he said about bush.....strawman argument.

  6. #26
    Banned
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Last Seen
    07-23-12 @ 03:52 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    6,763
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Interview with Charles Krauthammer: 'Obama is Average'

    Quote Originally Posted by niftydrifty View Post
    Nothing about Charles Krauthammer is "well thought out."
    Sure it is.

  7. #27
    Professor
    Dutch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Northern Arkansas
    Last Seen
    08-23-17 @ 09:19 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    1,808

    Re: Interview with Charles Krauthammer: 'Obama is Average'

    Quote Originally Posted by niftydrifty View Post
    "Well thought out." That's a curious way to put it.

    Double standards for different presidents. A blatantly false statement about accomplishments. An appeal to popularity. A myopic point of view that makes conclusions about big picture or history for a president he doesn't like, 9 months in, but says "wait and see" for a president he does like after 1, 2, 3, even 8 years. Confusing fringe with mainstream opinions. Criticizing a politician for being ... political.

    Nothing about Charles Krauthammer is "well thought out."
    I dunno, I think this is pretty well thought out.


    It is so comical. Absurd. Any prize that goes to Kellogg and Briand, Le Duc Tho and Arafat, and Rigoberta Menchú, and ends up with Obama, tells you all you need to know. For Obama it's not very good because it reaffirms the stereotypes about him as the empty celebrity.

  8. #28
    Too big to fail
    niftydrifty's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Last Seen
    03-03-16 @ 03:20 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,725

    Re: Interview with Charles Krauthammer: 'Obama is Average'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Don't like all the mean things krauthammer said about obama......trash what he said about bush.....strawman argument.
    A strawman argument is when you bring something up irrelevant or unrelated and then harp on that. Look it up. Everything I've posted in this thread either addresses what Krauthammer said in the interview in the OP, or supports my POV that Krauthammer is just plain awful as a pundit.

    An actual strawman argument in a Charles Krauthammer thread would in fact sound something like this:

    You people were sold an image. I'd say a number of you simply ignored the fact he had no experience, no track record, and no defining character traits. He was an empty vessel you could simply pour your hopes into. So you probably shouldn't bring up the idea of a wacko fringe as it was democrats that kept passing out at his rallies.
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=3227&dateline=1247527  127

  9. #29
    Student
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Last Seen
    01-12-12 @ 02:55 PM
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    205

    Re: Interview with Charles Krauthammer: 'Obama is Average'

    Coming from a neotard like the big K, this can only be another plus in his cap. Especially in Europe.

  10. #30
    Educating the Ignorant
    zimmer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:31 PM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    14,373
    Blog Entries
    12

    Re: Interview with Charles Krauthammer: 'Obama is Average'

    Bulls-eye by CK.

    I notice the leftists first went straight for the messenger... and ignored the message. You know you've got them by the short ones when they can't come back with an argument about what the author had written.

    Obama is absurd.

    Quote Originally Posted by tjinta ibis View Post
    Coming from a neotard like the big K, this can only be another plus in his cap. Especially in Europe.
    Oh yes, the masses of Europeans would have difficulty with statements like Big K dropped. The continental Euro masses are comically predictable, amazingly ignorant and just as gullible as our leftists.

    Why? Because they just don't hear that type of talk. It's rare. It's not socially acceptable, and should someone drop a litany as Big K did, speaking at a party... they'd be looked at oddly. I know it all too well, the great thing is the average Euro's ignorance runs so deep, everything one would state to back up ones claims comes across as "new" to most Euros. So often the reply is "I'd never heard that before".

    I don't know why we would put any stock into what the Euros think and even less in their beloved UN. When it comes to international conflicts, the Euros (and our Leftists... two peas in a pod) have been wrong about most everything in modern times.

    .
    Last edited by zimmer; 10-28-09 at 05:51 AM.
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

Page 3 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •