Ok, Lets put an end to this reliance on flawed numbers. If we are going to debate, and not just throw talking points back and forth, then we should at least agree on sourcing.
Oh my! That is funny.... You obviously are just typing from your extensive left wing notes, and not bothering to read anything disputing your hallowed view.
Even though IBC is as partisan as they come, the media took the bait — hook, line, and sinker. And in the rush to publish the blaring headers of the report — U.S. forces killed four times as many civilians as “anti-occupation forces”! — hardly anyone examined the underlying data.
But they should. The report itself is premised on two years worth of newspaper and web data — well, “data” in a loose sense. IBC rests its laurels on numbers generated from newspaper reports of deaths and newspaper reports of mortuary and hospital logs. The methodology is flawed from the get-go, and though the citations are noted, there are no links to the articles. (That’s not exactly true; there are a couple links to particularly gory stories, like one with the headline, “I saw the heads of my two little girls come off.”) The lack of transparency, however, is only a small flaw in an ocean of methodological errors. Deaths only have to be verified by two of their accepted sources — which include (the non-fair and balanced) CommonDreams.org, Al Jazeera, and ReliefWeb — and often the second source is just a reprint of the first. A death count only has to be mentioned in passing in the article, like a doctor or bystander who gives a reporter casualty estimates.
Alston B. Ramsay on Iraq Body Count on National Review Online
Read it this time. And with that we put away IBC forever more on the trash heap of flawed anti war rhetoric.
considered by both the right and left to be the most authoritative source on Iraqi deaths.
And the laughs keep commin', show me the sources on the 'right' who agree with this travesty of supposed war time counting. Can you? Or is it just a throw away tag meant to stifle, and detract from the fact that you are caught like a fish on a hook with this leftist agenda.
Let's see your source that is more authoritative than Iraq Body Count? I have asked you before and you have provided nothing.
I think I would stick with the link kansaswhig was so gracious as to provide. iCasualties | Operation Iraqi Freedom | Iraq They seem sound, and fair.
Aside from that I have always relied on what the Pentagon has said in relation to numbers in Iraq.
Do you have anything to add to this discussion?
Sure, the question is, are you willing to debate it? See, if by add you really mean agree with me, then no, I won't. Because your anti American view of our geo political status seems to emanate from whatever leftist, MoveON, self deprecating info you can find. I am truly sorry for you that you view your own country in such a light, and wonder if there is anything I can do to help alleviate your obvious suffering of living here. This:Unsupported Browser May be more to your liking.