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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    It's not going to. The military is to big and slow to do a withdrawl that quickly. 2013, maybe. Probably 2015.

    We have an agreement with the Iraqis to remove all our combat troops by 2011. We made that agreement in 2008. Are you trying to tell me we cannot remove our troops in a 3 year timetable?

    It doesn't matter. No one cares about Iraq anymore. It will be another promise Obama made to the left that he will break.
    Obama's reelection will depend on his removing the troops from Iraq.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    We have an agreement with the Iraqis to remove all our combat troops by 2011. We made that agreement in 2008. Are you trying to tell me we cannot remove our troops in a 3 year timetable?
    No, we can't and won't. You know the trick right?

    The Army is made up of "Brigade Combat Teams". Thus, your term "combat troops". If there are no BCTs in Iraq, then there are no Soldiers, right? Wrong. The Army recently re-named a dozen of it's BCTs. Now we are calling them "AABs" (Advisory and Assistance Brigades)...not "combat troops". (And it was just the units scheduled for Iraq, too...what irony) The units didn't change, just the name. So, no we won't have all combat troops out of Iraq by 2011. That is so rediculous that it's laughable.


    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Obama's reelection will depend on his removing the troops from Iraq
    No it won't. No one will give a crap.


    PS Quit writing in blue inside the quotes. It's annoying to try and respond. Learn how to multi-quote.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    No, we can't and won't. You know the trick right?

    The Army is made up of "Brigade Combat Teams". Thus, your term "combat troops". If there are no BCTs in Iraq, then there are no Soldiers, right? Wrong. The Army recently re-named a dozen of it's BCTs. Now we are calling them "AABs" (Advisory and Assistance Brigades)...not "combat troops". (And it was just the units scheduled for Iraq, too...what irony) The units didn't change, just the name. So, no we won't have all combat troops out of Iraq by 2011. That is so rediculous that it's laughable.

    And you think the Iraqi and American public will allow that? I don't!

    No it won't. No one will give a crap.
    We shall see!
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    And you think the Iraqi and American public will allow that? I don't!
    Iraqis are more likely to be mad than Americans. They don't give a crap. I hope it does end, I don't want to go back. My buddies over there now say that they aren't doing anything.


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    We shall see!
    If Obama loses, Iraq won't have anything to do with it.

    On the list of hot issues, Iraq is down by Gay Marraige. Probably farther down the list at this point. No one cares.

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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    Iraqis are more likely to be mad than Americans. They don't give a crap. I hope it does end, I don't want to go back. My buddies over there now say that they aren't doing anything.

    My son left the Air Force after 13 years due to our treatment of the Iraqis.

    If Obama loses, Iraq won't have anything to do with it.

    On the list of hot issues, Iraq is down by Gay Marraige. Probably farther down the list at this point. No one cares.
    A large number of people that worked to elect Obama care.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    In Gulf War 1. Is this the first you've heard of it?
    Ancient history.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You are the one that brought up Germany and Japan. We did not go to war with either to bring Democracy to them. They were threats, Iraq was not.
    That is why your analogy does not apply.
    My analogy does apply. It is not about the differences with how we got to those places and Iraq. It is about what we did when we got there and rebuild the countries.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Exactly, that's the same thing I am saying. It was about controlling the region militarily so no one can mess with our oil interests. After we invaded and occupied Iraq, US oil was able to return to the US for the first time since Saddam had kicked them out years ago, and now there is no worry about the pro-west government we installed switching to the Euro as Saddam had threatened to do. And we have bases and troops readily available to prevent any attacks on our government there or sabotage of the oil infrastructure.
    We are buying it on the open market.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Most likely strongly influenced by Iran.
    We'll see how the Iraqis decide the Open List/Closed List issue to see how much influence the Iranians have.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    He would not be where he is with out us.
    True, but we didn't install him. The Iraqi coalition that won the election selected him.

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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    ps quit writing in blue inside the quotes. It's annoying to try and respond. Learn how to multi-quote.
    yes, please!!

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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    I hope it does end, I don't want to go back.
    Word.

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    My buddies over there now say that they aren't doing anything.
    I wondered about that now that they have disengaged from the cities.

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    If Obama loses, Iraq won't have anything to do with it.
    Could there be other reasons?

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    On the list of hot issues, Iraq is down by Gay Marraige. Probably farther down the list at this point. No one cares.
    We certainly do!!

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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    My son left the Air Force after 13 years due to our treatment of the Iraqis.
    Damn, that's a big decision. Is he happy about his choice?

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