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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I suppose you support the alternative, that is Saddam's sons raping and torturing ordinary Iraqis at will?
    You could have taken out Saddam's sons with your six-shooter there. When Saddam was at his murderous worst, we were his allies, (Rumsfeld was over there shaking his hand) so I do not believe that was the reason.

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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

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    I bet you would be against drilling our own reserves as well no?
    What oil? We passed peak oil years ago. Why do you think we have been importing foreign oil for decades? If it had been a viable option, don't you think it would have been done during the 12 years the Republican's were in charge of Congress???
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If you are talking about Iraq, hell no!

    What do you think would have been the outcome for the Iraqi people, had Saddam Hussein, and his evil sons been allowed to continue to brutally dominate his own people, while at the same time continuing to develop WMD unchecked, under a corrupt UN system of inspection?


    If you are talking about Afghanistan, I have no idea what we are doing there? Revenge I suppose.

    Revenge against whom? Are we not there trying to provide Afghanistan ample breathing room to get its governmental affairs in order so that we can leave the security of that country to itself without fear that the Taliban will again take over?


    We overthrew their government and helped select those they would vote on under our military occupation, and we use our full-occupation force to prop them up and protect them from their own people.

    You have a funny notion of freedom.

    Was this better?


    ABID HUSSAN took one step inside the foul-smelling prison cell and began to shake. Beads of sweat ran down his forehead and behind his gold-rimmed spectacles. The 45-year-old shopkeeper pointed to the electric cables hanging from the ceiling where President Saddam Husseinís security police would torture him three times a day.

    People tried to elbow their way inside this impossibly small 6ft by 4ft torture chamber. They were anxious to sift through the documents carpeting the floor to see if it gave a clue to what became of a loved one, or friend, who had been dragged inside here and was never heard of again.


    Inside the hell of Saddam's torture chambers - Times Online

    That is who you defend as being better in charge of Iraq?


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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You could have taken out Saddam's sons with your six-shooter there. When Saddam was at his murderous worst, we were his allies, (Rumsfeld was over there shaking his hand) so I do not believe that was the reason.

    Yeah, I know you can take past events and twist them into something incoherent to support your arguments. That's very cute and we've all seen the photos. Kinda of like FDR sitting next to Stalin makes him a communist. I wish you had taken your six-shooter out prior to the war and tried to kill Saddam or his sons. It would have been interesting to watch you make it through all the guards and doubles. You want to make specious arguments using silly scenarios it appears.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What oil? We passed peak oil years ago. Why do you think we have been importing foreign oil for decades? If it had been a viable option, don't you think it would have been done during the 12 years the Republican's were in charge of Congress???

    Peak oil is a myth. We have more oil in the Bakkan reserve than all of the ME right now. Why aren't we exploring that?


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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Obviously that's not the case seeing as how the cost of gas quadrupled and quintupled instead of decreasing.

    If I felt that he intentionally went through all this just to secure financial profit from the oil-industry I'd be all over it.
    You have to look at the big picture. This was not about making things cheaper for us at the gas pumps. This was about militarily controlling the Middle East, the area that holds the largest and most pure oil reserves on the planet. They will be the last region on earth to run out of oil. The Neocon thinking was that whosoever controls the Middle East, controls the future.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    When Saddam was at his murderous worst, we were his allies
    When Stalin was at his worst, we were his ally. When al-Qaeda were fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan, we were supplying information and technology.

    Historical perspective always helpful.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What oil? We passed peak oil years ago. Why do you think we have been importing foreign oil for decades? If it had been a viable option, don't you think it would have been done during the 12 years the Republican's were in charge of Congress???
    I'll tell you why, because Saudi Arabia would hang any environazi that tried to stop oil drilling over there.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Peak oil is a myth. We have more oil in the Bakkan reserve than all of the ME right now. Why aren't we exploring that?


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    if we had it, we would not be fighting Middle East wars to control that region.

    We have know that for 35 years!
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yeah, I know you can take past events and twist them into something incoherent to support your arguments. That's very cute and we've all seen the photos. Kinda of like FDR sitting next to Stalin makes him a communist. I wish you had taken your six-shooter out prior to the war and tried to kill Saddam or his sons. It would have been interesting to watch you make it through all the guards and doubles. You want to make specious arguments using silly scenarios it appears.
    Do you deny we supported Saddam during his most murderous period when he accepted our bribes for sweet oil deals?
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