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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We have no right to enforce our way of government on others at the end of a gun.

    Who's doing that? Did they not have open elections? Certainly more fair than Afghanistan.


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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

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    I'll skip arguing this point, since 1) I've done it 3 times in 3 days already, 2)

    Wise choice.

    I am currently internally debating the point (did Bush know there were no WMDs? - I don't think he did.

    It was his job to know. If he took us to war without knowing that is just as bad.

    Is being in the national interest sufficient to justify an invasion or does it have to be in national defense? - I think national interest is sufficient).
    I don't believe coveting another region's oil is adequate national interest.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Why is that? It is the most authoritative report on the failure of our "war on terror." To ignore it is to increase the threat to our National Security!
    I suppose you support the alternative, that is Saddam's sons raping and torturing ordinary Iraqis at will?
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

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    I suppose you support the alternative, that is Saddam's sons raping and torturing ordinary Iraqis at will?



    No they are illrellevant when you need to bash Americans.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I don't believe coveting another region's oil is adequate national interest.

    I bet you would be against drilling our own reserves as well no?


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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh please.....The question is two fold. One, do you think that what America is doing there is the right thing?

    If you are talking about Iraq, hell no! If you are talking about Afghanistan, I have no idea what we are doing there? Revenge I suppose.


    and Two, do you want America to succeed?
    Succeed at what? Yes, I want America to succeed at being more moral than those that attacked us.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I don't believe coveting another region's oil is adequate national interest.
    Obviously that's not the case seeing as how the cost of gas quadrupled and quintupled instead of decreasing.

    If I felt that he intentionally went through all this just to secure financial profit from the oil-industry I'd be all over it.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Succeed at what? Yes, I want America to succeed at being more moral than those that attacked us.




    Theres some of that great "pro-American" attitude.




    We are far "more moral" than the terrorists..... To suggest otherwise is to either be woefully ignorant or a purposeful anti-American, enemy sympathizer.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Who's doing that? Did they not have open elections? Certainly more fair than Afghanistan.
    We overthrew their government and helped select those they would vote on under our military occupation, and we use our full-occupation force to prop them up and protect them from their own people.

    You have a funny notion of freedom.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We overthrew their government and helped select those they would vote on under our military occupation, and we use our full-occupation force to prop them up and protect them from their own people.

    You have a funny notion of freedom.




    so you liked the "freedom" they had before better?
    You should try to remember, ideas are conveyed by researching information, vetting sources, and confirming said information. Not by regurgitating talking points given to you by your "news" station.
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