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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    i am happy to see that you are open minded on a change of mind.
    Thanks, I try to always reevaluate. I have been known to be wrong. This would be a big one, though.

    I had a change of mind about something else related to the Iraq war. I have always felt that Iraqis would see that working together across sectarian divides and doing reconciliation would be in their best interests. In a conversation with a friend, it was pointed out to me that my hope here was not reflected by reality. It was a crushing moment. I still have not lost hope that it will be so, but I recognize the reality. It leaves me in a strange position of both hoping and being skeptical at the same time. This is the world as I wish it to be and the world as it is.

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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Actually, there were multiple reasons. As I posted earlier, the reasons were:
    - WMD development threat
    - Treatment of citizens
    - Iraqi cooperation with terrorists
    - UN violations
    - To transform into a democracy

    The WMDs were highlighted and used as justification to the public and the UN.
    they may all have been reason's to do such a thing. i do not dispute you on these points.

    the reason Bush gave was WMD's and since than we know that he knew that they were never a threat. had he not used the WMD card he knew the US would never have gone to conflict with Iraq.

    Bush deemed for his own purpose to attack another nation.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Thanks, I try to always reevaluate. I have been known to be wrong. This would be a big one, though.

    I had a change of mind about something else related to the Iraq war. I have always felt that Iraqis would see that working together across sectarian divides and doing reconciliation would be in their best interests. In a conversation with a friend, it was pointed out to me that my hope here was not reflected by reality. It was a crushing moment. I still have not lost hope that it will be so, but I recognize the reality. It leaves me in a strange position of both hoping and being skeptical at the same time. This is the world as I wish it to be and the world as it is.
    the interior divisions are to wide and trying to get them to work together in a good way would be near to impossible. the beliefs and cultures very from area to area.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    the reason Bush gave was WMD's and since than we know that he knew that they were never a threat.
    We know for sure that he knew that they were never a threat? Is there an article I could read that proves this?

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    had he not used the WMD card he knew the US would never have gone to conflict with Iraq.
    True that. No threat. As I wrote earlier about why I think we went, we would be justified in going if there wasn't a threat. However, that case would not have been able to be made to the American people.

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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    Apparently not, since he let him escape at Tora Bora (Dalton Fury)



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    . They just haven't told us yet.


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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    you forget that Bush was focused on Bin Laden when he said it or was that a lie as well.

    He took his eye off the ball.


    Obama is trying to deal with the mess of Bush. Obama's fault is that he is still trying to do that and not removing troops.


    Oh poor obama
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    that is how the spin doctor's want it to sound.



    Loony leftists for some reason stick with this nonsense.


    Ships admiral said..


    The Ships crew states.

    The white house stated.

    And even later when Bush was asked about it, he said he could see how it could have been confused and regretted the sign....



    Why this is such a "gotcha" for the left is beyond me.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    it was in reference to the war. when Bush looked like an ass a while later they spun it to make seem as if this was the ships mission.




    I thought you were all about "truth"....


    CNN.com - White House pressed on 'mission accomplished' sign - Oct. 29, 2003
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Why pray for Katie? You need to pray for those that supported wars against countries that never attacked us.


    Why not? will she melt or something?




    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What lies, would you prefer to keep military atrocities secret and hidden from public view?

    "Telling, very telling."



    Right. Note your anti-american rhetoric. Note your lack of outrage at the savages...
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    I heard an Admiral on the Rusty Humphries show last week, I think, that was on that ship, and he was explaining that the sign was the brain child of the ships XO, that put it up to signify the end of that ships mission. But, we see what happens when we let a biased liberal media get ahold of it.


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