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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    well if your own citizens do this than it is time to take a hard look at what you are doing.

    well the US has done good. i do not deny that. i do weigh it against the evil and you are pretty much like all the rest. some good some bad. it all depends on if you count the bad against the good. seems as if the rest of the world and some of your citizens have a bad opinion of you guys.
    What bad would you say we have done?

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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    it is not your place to spread anything in a sovereign nation.
    Why not? Is the sovereignty of a brutal dictator a shield that protects him, by international law? That's ridiculous.

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    it is up to the US to mind it's own business in my eyes. you may think otherwise. your country has problems of it's own. why are you worried about someone else. you also screwed up your attempt to capture Bin Laden by dividing your forces and fighting in two places. had you kept the manpower in one local maybe you would have accomplished your goal. it was Bin Laden as i recall.
    We are worried about the world, as it's superpower. We did not screw up spliting our forces. We could not have placed 150,000 troops in Afghanistan. Plus, Bin Laden is in Pakistan. Should we invade Pakistan?

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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    It is a big risk that democracy will fold. If the Iraqis want us, we will stay for decades to help it stabilize. The insurgents wanted jobs that we provided. The Iraqi government has to keep paying them.



    And those that committed them are being punished for it. Big difference.



    They know. They were being killed under Saddam. It is the terrorists that are killing them.
    i am going to take the bolded part. is it not up to the nation to do something to change the nation. democracy is not a gift. it is never appreciated unless it is earned. the forefathers of your nation knew that. they farther time takes you away from said independence and the formulation of your nation the less people appreciate what you have.

    you can not hand out democracy and freedom. it needs to be earned.

    it was good that some who committed war crimes were sentenced. though not all. but it was a start.

    the Iraqi's will keep paying them because if they don't the democracy that was handed to them will fail and fall.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    I remember a story that was supposed to have been true that said, just after WWII DeGaulle told Eisenhower that he wanted all US troops out of France immediately & Eisenhower is reported to have said tat ....."You better get some shovels then."

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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by American first View Post
    What bad would you say we have done?
    the coup in Iran the coup in Chile the attack on Iraq. the manipulation of many other nations by coup or other measures. they all seem to work against you.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    the coup in Iran the coup in Chile the attack on Iraq. the manipulation of many other nations by coup or other measures. they all seem to work against you.
    We were in a life & death stuggle with the Sovit Union for most of those and you can't always use the Marquis of Queensbury fair fighting rules when in a struggle for your life.

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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Why not? Is the sovereignty of a brutal dictator a shield that protects him, by international law? That's ridiculous.



    We are worried about the world, as it's superpower. We did not screw up spliting our forces. We could not have placed 150,000 troops in Afghanistan. Plus, Bin Laden is in Pakistan. Should we invade Pakistan?
    the nation needs to be ready to make an overthrow. we were the overthrow. that does not a revolution make. they are all set up now for the next tyrant that takes the controls.

    he is in Pakistan now. he wasn't when you let him go. you did screw up you lost both positions. in Iraq you will lose the second you pull out. another Vietnam. in Afghanistan the number of troops needed to be higher now you are losing control of that as well.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by American first View Post
    I remember a story that was supposed to have been true that said, just after WWII DeGaulle told Eisenhower that he wanted all US troops out of France immediately & Eisenhower is reported to have said tat ....."You better get some shovels then."
    i believe that that is true.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by American first View Post
    We were in a life & death stuggle with the Sovit Union for most of those and you can't always use the Marquis of Queensbury fair fighting rules when in a struggle for your life.
    those coups had little to do with the Soviet Union. they were for the US. Cuba was another one the US supported Batista. it allowed Castro to take over. another support of a bad leader that the US was doing.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    those coups had little to do with the Soviet Union. they were for the US. Cuba was another one the US supported Batista. it allowed Castro to take over. another support of a bad leader that the US was doing.
    Almost everything we did prior to 1989 was with the Soviet Union in mind.

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