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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    You cannot "opt" for which efforts you support and which ones you don't.
    If you're "out" you are officially "out."

    So - if everyone, like you suggests, leaves the military because they don't support one act over another then that would mean that we have no one to fight in any circumstance.

    If we didn't have a solid military then we would be vulnerable and easy targets. Enough groups, organizations and factions - not to mention whole countries - in the world spite us so much that any gap in our military would quickly be taken advantage of and that could easily net in an attack on us, in our country, on our soil.

    Get your head out of the clouds and realize that the war in the Middle East is not the only military situation we're involved in. It seems to be the only one you're aware of but their are countless other situations gong on worldwide and quite a many are not vast, deep military excursions but necessary functions with a solid and honest purpose.

    Pick what you want - to be open to attack and subjugation or safety.

    Now - if you want to be without a solid military of support and protection then, fine, but fortunately our government actually cares about US and wants to keep us quite intact and unharmed.
    so what you are saying is that you think the Nazi high command was right in all they did under order. why were there war trials? you can't have it both ways. pick a side.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Millions of "soldiers" refuse to go, by not signing up to join the military.
    this is true i agree. as a soldier joins he enables leaders to conduct war. if there is no military because of lack of interest than we all win.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    No wrong sorry.
    i would figure you could not understand the simplicity of Gibberish's response.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    sure defend Bush's buddies. that what you all do. now tell me what Iraq did. oh i'll help they did nothing except exist. so don't hand me that crap about the Saudi's.
    Sure I defend Bush & Co. 24/7.

    Iraq was threatening it's neighbors with non-existent WMD's. That's what they did.

    And the Saudi govt. didn't have anything to do with 9/11.

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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    so what you are saying is that you think the Nazi high command was right in all they did under order. why were there war trials? you can't have it both ways. pick a side.
    I think that using extreme examples doesn't help much in this argument. Soldiers for the US are voluntary and you sign contract. If there is significant moral objection, there may be paths which are open. But in the end, you can't be a soldier and opt out when fighting starts. You were paid to fight, and that's what you must do. There's not always an absolute morality. The Nazis weren't correct in what they did, but no army can stand if they allow their soldiers to flee. Maybe some kept on and did their duty because of the alternative. There were trials because we won, not the Nazis.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    this is true i agree. as a soldier joins he enables leaders to conduct war. if there is no military because of lack of interest than we all win.
    The unspoken assumption is that the enemy will play by your rules.

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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Like I said - without a military you'll have to defend yourself and, obviously, you're not cut from that cloth.

    You don't know the first thing about the price that soldiers pay, don't pretend that you do - my husband is one and he's been one long before this bruhah in the sand started 20 years ago.

    While you're sitting around whining about someone's values that you cannot grasp we've been dealing with it first hand and well aware of all the demands.

    Further, for a considerable amount of time my husband held a job that most couldn't qualify for and, as a result, we're quite *aware* of things that you'll never know about.

    Oh so easy it is to be blind, for you, until your desire comes around on you full circle and singes your infallible hair.
    well since you have never seen the cloth or where it has been i will let that slide.

    i have been waiting two hours here for a response on the Nazi's that followed orders. i guess it is not in your nature to respond directly to that which refutes all you have states thus far. hmmmm is that the case?
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    And what of the thousands of kuwaitis killed tortured and maimed.


    How does that mesh with your pacifism apeasment?
    was that the US's problem? was that up to you to decide.

    i don't like it. just as i don't like the way women are treated in many countries and i work tirelessly to help them. i have helped in Iraq with those the US tried to murder in invasion. i have bandaged the wounded and carried medicines. what di you do other than try and kill them. what? what has gone on in Iraq is Murder. if you were there you are one of them.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    Sure I defend Bush & Co. 24/7.

    Iraq was threatening it's neighbors with non-existent WMD's. That's what they did.

    And the Saudi govt. didn't have anything to do with 9/11.
    oh please they were a threat to no one. the only threat they posed was to daddy Bush's pride. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.

    oh show me the WMD's Bush found. that is so full of ****.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think that using extreme examples doesn't help much in this argument. Soldiers for the US are voluntary and you sign contract. If there is significant moral objection, there may be paths which are open. But in the end, you can't be a soldier and opt out when fighting starts. You were paid to fight, and that's what you must do. There's not always an absolute morality. The Nazis weren't correct in what they did, but no army can stand if they allow their soldiers to flee. Maybe some kept on and did their duty because of the alternative. There were trials because we won, not the Nazis.
    so you support the Nazi's in what they did. that makes three that support following unjust orders. keep them coming. i am beginning to see how you all support unjust invasions. makes sense.
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