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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    I'm sorry for being cryptic.

    I was objecting to your suggestion that an immediate decision is better than a well considered one which takes awhile.

    I think Obama is going to wait til after the run off election to see how the political climate looks in Kabul before making a troop decision. Because, no matter how many troops are added, if the govt remains too corrupt or too weak any hopes for positive change will be just a pipe dream.
    This is actually one of my biggest concerns with Afghan. What is the point of "liberating" Afghan if it only remains peaceful as a police state? More troops aren't going to make the Afghan military and government less corrupt.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    That's the family, relationship, psychological and physical burden.

    I was refering to the burden of "blame" and "responsibility" that people asign during and after conflicts.

    Individuals, sadly, are reduced to numbers on paper of "casualities" and statistics - in the history books everyone will know "Bush" they will know "Obama" and they will know "Clinton" in regard to this Middle East situation.
    The only time a soldier will go down in history is for descention and acts of valor.
    the soldiers pay the price for faulty decisions by leaders. that is why soldiers should refuse to go.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    the soldiers pay the price for faulty decisions by leaders. that is why soldiers should refuse to go.
    Millions of "soldiers" refuse to go, by not signing up to join the military.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    When I was there? I pushed the iraqi army and republican guard out of Kuwait. I'm cool with my actions.
    you were not defending your country as another poster said the military was to do. that she said was their job.
    you were a foreign invader nothing more. no better than the militaries that you berate.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i have a feeling you'll win that one. night.
    i would like to think so.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Because if a soldier will follow orders that aren't perfect, in a perfect world, then I know that no matter what, I can count him to protect this country, to the death. I don't have much confidence in a soldier who picks and chooses what missions he is dedicated to. He might change his mind, when we need him the most. Soldiers have to be able to be counted on 100% of the time, not just when they feel like doing their job.
    well than you have no problem with the Nazi high command following Hitler's orders. they were just doing the right thing by their boss.

    i find it funny no matter how many times i say that you all avoid it. the reason being is it makes your staements about following orders make zero sense.

    maybe you guys want to work together to make up a debate that makes sense and fits together.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Exactly!

    You can't depend on a floor when it has holes right through it.

    In politics if one changes their mind about what they support frequently they're accused of flip-flopping.
    than in your eyes the Nazi's were correct to follow the oders as well. that makes 2 Nazi supporters.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Millions of "soldiers" refuse to go, by not signing up to join the military.

    No wrong sorry.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    the soldiers pay the price for faulty decisions by leaders. that is why soldiers should refuse to go.
    Like I said - without a military you'll have to defend yourself and, obviously, you're not cut from that cloth.

    You don't know the first thing about the price that soldiers pay, don't pretend that you do - my husband is one and he's been one long before this bruhah in the sand started 20 years ago.

    While you're sitting around whining about someone's values that you cannot grasp we've been dealing with it first hand and well aware of all the demands.

    Further, for a considerable amount of time my husband held a job that most couldn't qualify for and, as a result, we're quite *aware* of things that you'll never know about.

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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's not blind patriotism. It's a devotion, to the death, to his unit and his comrades. You'll never be able to understand, but when your life is on the line, the last thing you want is someone who might waffle at the last second.
    same thing except with your statement i need a violin to accompany while we all weep.
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