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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    i made a post to a very specific response. if you would like to test your knowledge of WWII make a thread and i would be more than happy to debate you. until then ....
    i have a feeling you'll win that one. night.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    killing for nothing does not a patriot make. standing as a lone voice against the idiocy of government makes a patriot. i asked before i will ask again. would you have applauded the Nazi's if the soldiers had not fought? why would you applaud a US troop that blindly follows after foolish orders? makes no sense maybe you could explain the thought behind your dual thinking.

    Because if a soldier will follow orders that aren't perfect, in a perfect world, then I know that no matter what, I can count him to protect this country, to the death. I don't have much confidence in a soldier who picks and chooses what missions he is dedicated to. He might change his mind, when we need him the most. Soldiers have to be able to be counted on 100% of the time, not just when they feel like doing their job.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Because if a soldier will follow orders that aren't perfect, in a perfect world, then I know that no matter what, I can count him to protect this country, to the death. I don't have much confidence in a soldier who picks and chooses what missions he is dedicated to. He might change his mind, when we need him the most. Soldiers have to be able to be counted on 100% of the time, not just when they feel like doing their job.
    Exactly!

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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I don't know, Iraq's impiralism into kuwait did threaten the entire region and our allies...
    Guess Kuwait shouldn't have been side drilling and stealing Iraq's oil. And guess we should of had competent ambassadors who would have told Saddam the US would look very negatively upon invasion and possible become involved and not that we wouldn't have an opinion. But que sera sera.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    not fake. blind patriotism is what makes no sense to me. it seems the military has this in abundance.
    It's not blind patriotism. It's a devotion, to the death, to his unit and his comrades. You'll never be able to understand, but when your life is on the line, the last thing you want is someone who might waffle at the last second.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    were the Nazi's right? who's judgment makes it wrong?

    was the US right to attack a nation for the wrongs of some? who's judgment is it that all should pay for the acts of a few?

    is this what would be called an eye for an eye?
    The Taliban was the gov't in 2001 and they were asked to give up Osama. They refused. We invaded.

    You think that was wrong?

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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Guess Kuwait shouldn't have been side drilling and stealing Iraq's oil. And guess we should of had competent ambassadors who would have told Saddam the US would look very negatively upon invasion and possible become involved and not that we wouldn't have an opinion. But que sera sera.
    So, when Mexican companies kick their drill pipe off a couple miles north of the Rio Grande, we should invade them? Rape, pillage and burn?
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's not blind patriotism. It's a devotion, to the death, to his unit and his comrades. You'll never be able to understand, but when your life is on the line, the last thing you want is someone who might waffle at the last second.

    Yep.
    This is part of the reaon why women are not allowed in front-line combat units. Too many variables.
    (Which I support - some things are just facts. You have to be able to depend on your troops)
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Exactly!

    You can't depend on a floor when it has holes right through it.
    Damn good point.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Guess Kuwait shouldn't have been side drilling and stealing Iraq's oil. And guess we should of had competent ambassadors who would have told Saddam the US would look very negatively upon invasion and possible become involved and not that we wouldn't have an opinion. But que sera sera.



    Or it just needed a bigger hammer in us as an allie.



    but, no.


    Stealing oil
    In 1990 Iraq accused Kuwait of stealing Iraq's oil through slant drilling. Such claims are doubted to have been serious enough to justify war or the occupation of Kuwait, since the limits of directional drilling (at the time) made it unlikely that any such well could have been drilled much more than a mile from the surface location. Even doing so would have involved drilling sites close to the border and the use of sophisticated and easily identifiable equipment and personnel for extreme distances. The United Nations redrew the border after the 1991 Gulf war that liberated Kuwait from a seven-month Iraqi occupation under former leader Saddam Hussein. It placed 11 oil wells, some farms and an old naval base that used to be in Iraq on the Kuwaiti side.[2]


    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directional_drilling]Directional drilling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
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