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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    I'm not sure the point you are trying to make. You bolded my statement of how Obama's indecisiveness reflects him as a leader and quote a article that says insurgents can't be beat by military means alone.

    I'm sorry for being cryptic.

    I was objecting to your suggestion that an immediate decision is better than a well considered one which takes awhile.

    I think Obama is going to wait til after the run off election to see how the political climate looks in Kabul before making a troop decision. Because, no matter how many troops are added, if the govt remains too corrupt or too weak any hopes for positive change will be just a pipe dream.

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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    yets from Afghanistan are getting what they deserve not much of anything. they made the choice to enlist. they reap the benefits and that in this case is a big zero. tough luck when it comes to following fools to battle.
    the families should start suing the government now for wrongful death to their loved ones.
    What a dreary, bitter post.

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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    they make the choice to enlist, but they don't get to choose their wars. what they deserve is our thanks for standing ready.
    sure they do. refuse to follow. be the soldier whose strength is not to fight. had the Nazi soldiers not fought you would have applauded them would you not. following a wrong order is wrong no matter who set your feet to the path. it has to do with personal responsibility and integrity. is that not true?
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    sure they do. refuse to follow. be the soldier whose strength is not to fight. had the Nazi soldiers not fought you would have applauded them would you not. following a wrong order is wrong no matter who set your feet to the path. it has to do with personal responsibility and integrity. is that not true?



    Who judges "right and wrong" or is it arbitrary to YOUR politics?
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You should be at their feet, thanking them for not being fair weather patriots.
    killing for nothing does not a patriot make. standing as a lone voice against the idiocy of government makes a patriot. i asked before i will ask again. would you have applauded the Nazi's if the soldiers had not fought? why would you applaud a US troop that blindly follows after foolish orders? makes no sense maybe you could explain the thought behind your dual thinking.
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    sure they do. refuse to follow. be the soldier whose strength is not to fight. had the Nazi soldiers not fought you would have applauded them would you not. following a wrong order is wrong no matter who set your feet to the path. it has to do with personal responsibility and integrity. is that not true?
    no. if a person feels they might not be able to obey an order they shouldn't become a soldier. (except, of course, illegal orders)

    it would be anarchy otherwise. there is a reason why soldiers are so intensely trained, like it or not.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Who judges "right and wrong" or is it arbitrary to YOUR politics?
    were the Nazi's right? who's judgment makes it wrong?

    was the US right to attack a nation for the wrongs of some? who's judgment is it that all should pay for the acts of a few?

    is this what would be called an eye for an eye?
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    killing for nothing does not a patriot make. standing as a lone voice against the idiocy of government makes a patriot. i asked before i will ask again. would you have applauded the Nazi's if the soldiers had not fought? why would you applaud a US troop that blindly follows after foolish orders? makes no sense maybe you could explain the thought behind your dual thinking.












    Anti-troop rhetoric and nazi comparrisons.... I suppose you are a pacifist, eh? (I love this argument.....)


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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    were the Nazi's right? who's judgment makes it wrong?

    When I was serving, I refused two orders, Both were deemed unlawful.


    Please stop comparing me to a nazi.


    was the US right to attack a nation for the wrongs of some? who's judgment is it that all should pay for the acts of a few?

    is this what would be called an eye for an eye?


    By your logic. Europe would be speaking german....
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    Re: U.S. troops hope Afghanistan sacrifices not in vain

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    no. if a person feels they might not be able to obey an order they shouldn't become a soldier. (except, of course, illegal orders)

    it would be anarchy otherwise. there is a reason why soldiers are so intensely trained, like it or not.
    if they became a soldier first and then the order comes. what are they to do?

    the real hero acts with personal integrity and says no i will not do this. the personal sell out blindly marches off to battle.
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