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NATO Backs McChrystal Strategy

The Prof said:
no one cares about the previous administration except politicos and historians

obama is the president now

afghanistan is his problem

if he doesn't like it, he shouldn't have run

is HE gonna try to blame his failures on the past, too?

let him try

he too will come off as an excuse making coward

afghanistan is KILLING this president
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You cannot ignore seven years of neglect and state "well that is history" Obama is moving cautiously in Afrghanistan because he has been doing more than just boosting military numbers.

Read any serious journal article on Afghanistan (and not some partisan drivel) and you will see one of the first things they did was boost CIVILIAN numbers to try and stabilise the country's infrastructure.
 
The Prof said:
no one cares about the previous administration except politicos and historians

obama is the president now

afghanistan is his problem

if he doesn't like it, he shouldn't have run

is HE gonna try to blame his failures on the past, too?

let him try

he too will come off as an excuse making coward

afghanistan is KILLING this president
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Any way you look at it Prof the previous administration with their blatant stand off policly purposely tried to set this administration and America up to fail in Afghanistan. At the expense of our troops in the field. Why didn't Bush send additional troops when he was requested to do so?
 
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goldendog said:
Any way you look at it Prof the previous administration with their blatant stand off policly purposely tried to set this administration and America up to fail in Afghanistan. At the expense of our troops in the field. Why didn't Bush send additional troops when he was requested to do so?
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I doubt you have anything to back that up. Purposely set up the troop and this administration?
 
American said:
I doubt you have anything to back that up. Purposely set up the troop and this administration?
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Yep..the proof is in the pudding....:2wave:

Why did the troop request sit on Bush's desk for eight months and he never approved them?

Sounds like a purposeful setup to me.
 
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bowerbird said:
You cannot ignore seven years of neglect and state "well that is history"
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watch me: "it's history"

afghanistan is obama's war

afghanistan is KILLING this president
 
American said:
I'm sure you the the classified documents sitting in front of you write now.
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Why did the additional troop requests sit on Bush desk for eight months without him approving them?

It does look like a purposeful setup.

Perhaps he thought they were just as unimportant as the intelligence briefing memos he took on vacation with him just proir to the 9-11 attack titled "Osama Bin Laden determined to attack within the United States?
 
goldendog said:
Why did the additional troop requests sit on Bush desk for eight months without him approving them?

It does look like a purposeful setup.

Perhaps he thought they were just as unimportant as the intelligence briefing memos he took on vacation with him just proir to the 9-11 attack titled "Osama Bin Laden determined to attack within the United States?
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OMG, GD is a Trufer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


Hahahahaha, look we have a Trufer in our midst! What luck! :rofl I'll bet this Trufer was in the Birfer threads tearing them up too. Wasn't ya, Mr Trufer???
 
So American?????


Why not answer the question?

Why did the additional troop requests sit on Bush's desk for eight months without him approving them?

To purposefully set the next administration and America up for failure in Afghanistan?
 
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Still waiting on a link.
 
Why else would Bush Refuse for eight months to send the requested troops?
 
because bush was a loser

one could concede anything anyone wants about w-stands-for-what's-his-name and not lose a "point"

unless obama's actually gonna go before the american people like some mindless, argumentative chatroomer and claim we lost in afghanistan because everything is all the previous president's fault

mature, aware opponents of obama would dare him to take such an idiot position

he's president now

it's his war

afghanistan is killing THIS president
 
The Prof said:
because bush was a loser

one could concede anything anyone wants about w-stands-for-what's-his-name and not lose a "point"

unless obama's actually gonna go before the american people like some mindless, argumentative chatroomer and claim we lost in afghanistan because everything is all the previous president's fault

mature, aware opponents of obama would dare him to take such an idiot position

he's president now

it's his war

afghanistan is killing THIS president
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Refusing to send the requested troops for eight months definately sends the message to the America people that politics was his one and only concern and making every attempt he could to set the next administration and America up for failure in Afghanistan was his only objective.

I can asure you that the new President won't be so stupid and arrogant.
 
goldendog said:
Refusing to send the requested troops for eight months definately sends the message to the America people that politics was his one and only concern and making every attempt he could to set the next administration and America up for failure in Afghanistan was his only objective.

I can asure you that the new President won't be so stupid and arrogant.
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Let's not be stupidly paranoid.
 
Redress said:
Let's not be stupidly paranoid.
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Aside from wanting to attack me personally...please explain why you feel that way?

Why else would Bush let those troop requests sit on his dest for eight months?
 
American said:
Are you saying they've been sitting on their lazy asses doing nothing? I've heard you say some pretty ****ty things, but I never thought you'd kick our troops in the teeth. :doh
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No, GD is obviously saying that the troops have been ready to get the job done for 8 years. They have done their part with valor. What has been lacking for 8 years has been a coherent plan.

Don't you think it wise to have plan before we put more troops in harms way?
 
goldendog said:
Aside from wanting to attack me personally...please explain why you feel that way?

Why else would Bush let those troop requests sit on his dest for eight months?
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I don't know, and I am not one to defend Bush, but I do not see him trying intentionally trying to hurt the country, nor to sabotage the next administration. I think he was a horrid president, but not that horrid a person. Without some real evidence of motivation, it is at best speculation to suggest what you did, and not very good speculation.

I did not say what I did out of a desire to attack you, but it's attitudes like that that give conservatives easy ammunition to use against us liberals.
 
kansaswhig said:
Mullen's has concured with the the McChrystal report...he's advocated no new strategy nor recommended troop levels. Petreaus has been oddly silent. McChrystal had the report leaked; so we know where he stands.
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General Patreaus hasn't been silent.
 
Redress said:
I don't know, and I am not one to defend Bush, but I do not see him trying intentionally trying to hurt the country, nor to sabotage the next administration. I think he was a horrid president, but not that horrid a person. Without some real evidence of motivation, it is at best speculation to suggest what you did, and not very good speculation.

I did not say what I did out of a desire to attack you, but it's attitudes like that that give conservatives easy ammunition to use against us liberals.
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You want evidence? Have you been listening to the ex-vp lately? Is he not still a mouth piece for George Bush? If you think their political motivations are not that horrid then all I can say is WAKE UP.

Screw that easy ammunition crap...why won't they answer the question then? Why won't you answer the question?
 
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AS President Obama and his advisers contemplate a new course for Afghanistan, many commentators are suggesting analogies with earlier conflicts, particularly the war in Vietnam. Such comparisons can be useful, but only if the characterizations of earlier wars are accurate and lessons are appropriately applied.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/18/opinion/18sorley.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=vietnam&st=cse

In other words, Afghanistan can be won without becoming another Viet Nam. Sorley highlights how in the article.
 
goldendog said:
You want evidence? Have you been listening to the ex-vp lately? Is he not still a mouth piece for George Bush? If you think their political motivations are not that horrid then all I can say is WAKE UP.

Screw that easy ammunition crap...why won't they answer the question then?
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I do not think Cheney is any one's mouthpiece but his own.

They probably won't answer the question because they do not know, just as you do not know.
 
Redress said:
I do not think Cheney is any one's mouthpiece but his own.

They probably won't answer the question because they do not know, just as you do not know.
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Yes right Red...I don't know that they took an entirely stand off policy for years reguarding Afghanistan...I don't know that Bush had additional troop requests on his desk for the last eight months of his dismal tenure and refuse to approve them..I don't know that Cheney and his tooters are out attacking the President from day one accusing him of not acting fast enough.....

WAKE UP RED...
 
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Redress said:
I do not think Cheney is any one's mouthpiece but his own.

They probably won't answer the question because they do not know, just as you do not know.
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You are my favorite Liberal. ;)
 
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