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    Re: NATO Backs McChrystal Strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, I know how it works. I know that strack-assed butter bars get what they ask for, too. That's the great thing about being an NCO, we're worth our weight in gold, so they're not going to tell us we can't jine the infantry.

    But, you are the King of The Battlefield. Arty is certainly better than some pussy REMF branch of arms, no doubt about that. You coulda been branched friggin Finance! I would desert if something like that happened to me...lol.
    I don't know what I would have done if the Army would have really screwed me. I probably would have just enlisted.



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    Re: NATO Backs McChrystal Strategy

    Steve Coll, author of the excellent book on Afghanistan, Ghost Wars, penned this today in the New Yorker. Regardless of your politics, I suggest that you read this.

    War and Politics

    Afghanistan’s deterioration cannot be blamed on one man, and certainly not on Karzai. After the Taliban’s fall, he was a symbol of national unity in a broken land—for several years, he was perhaps the only Afghan leader able to attract the simultaneous confidence of northern Tajik militias, southern Pashtun tribes, and international aid donors. The landslide he won in the 2004 election truly reflected his standing.

    Gradually, however, Karzai seemed to succumb to palace fever and corruption. An unfortunate blend of ego and passivity hobbled him; he could neither manage the American presence in his country nor turn its failures to his advantage by remaking himself as a convincing nationalist. For years, the Bush Administration accepted Karzai’s limitations, and did nothing to create conditions from which a plausible alternative might emerge. In 2008, as another election approached, President Bush’s advisers at last sensed trouble; some of them considered trying to dump Karzai. In the end, however, Bush chose a policy of neutrality, which the incoming Obama Administration endorsed.

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    Re: NATO Backs McChrystal Strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    FAIL.....



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    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    FAIL.....
    Link please or STFU.
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    Re: NATO Backs McChrystal Strategy

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    When we get in a real war, I'll give it a read.
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    Re: NATO Backs McChrystal Strategy

    bush was a loser

    afghanistan is killing THIS president---politically

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    Re: NATO Backs McChrystal Strategy

    afghanistan is KILLING this president

    obama LIED

    on september 20 he went on five sunday talks and repeated his prevarications---he was awaiting a "top-to-bottom review" from his employees in the field, he said

    and he had not yet been asked for more troops

    the next day, monday, september 21, bob woodward of the post leaked mcchrystal's secret assessment which obama had been sitting on since august 30

    the publication of the general's report exposed obama's LIES
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    Re: NATO Backs McChrystal Strategy

    john king on this morning's state of the union, cnn

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    king: ever since rahm emanuel told me last week that the bush administration left the current white house completely in the dark concerning afghanistan, my phone has not stopped ringing off the hook

    king: reports suggest that general petraeus late in the bush administration recommended a troop decrease in iraq, and bush deferred that decision to obama to allow the incoming white house to get the credit

    please reserve your objections for mr king, i simply report what i saw and noted on my omnipresent clipboard

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    Re: NATO Backs McChrystal Strategy

    stephanopoulos on this morning's this week:

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    stephy: nato endorsed mcchrystal's strategy, obama's entire cabinet is behind the general, will president obama ultimately agree to send reinforcements to afghanistan?

    the entire panel: yes

    that's george will, al hunt, cynthia tucker, laura ingraham and john podesta

    stephy made 6

    tucker, podesta and stephy equivocated talk about triggers, phase-in's and reinforcements fewer than 40G

    yet they too still saw obama as, apparently, obligated to do that which he really doesn't want and which his base is gonna be really unhappy about

    his base is correct---we have very little chance of accomplishing much positive over there, no matter how many we send, no matter which tactics we adopt

    afghanistan is KILLING this president---politically

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    Re: NATO Backs McChrystal Strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Link please or STFU.
    I admire the politeness of the right wing.

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