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    Re: NATO Backs McChrystal Strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I agree. Looks like you learned a little something as an FSO. Hangin' with those grunts learned you something.
    I loved the Infantry. I asked for it as a branch...but the Army decided I would make a better artilleryman. Which has been OK. I've got all the schools and good assignments...but the best time of my life was as a 2LT in an INF CO. in Iraq. Loved it.

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    Re: NATO Backs McChrystal Strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    i.e. destroy the enemy and his ability to wage war. You're catchin' on, Cap. Hang in there, you'll be a commander one day.
    In 6 weeks, to be exact.

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    Re: NATO Backs McChrystal Strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    I loved the Infantry. I asked for it as a branch...but the Army decided I would make a better artilleryman. Which has been OK. I've got all the schools and good assignments...but the best time of my life was as a 2LT in an INF CO. in Iraq. Loved it.
    What? They made you go be a gun bunny? Man, I'm sorry. Wow, just wow. I didn't know that. I'll have to take it easy on you from now on.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: NATO Backs McChrystal Strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    In 6 weeks, to be exact.
    Getting your own battery?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: NATO Backs McChrystal Strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Maybe you should read The Art of War also? A war is a war. No matter how it's fought. Just because it's "unconventional" (when in all seriousness what the terrorists are doing is about as old a tactic as war itself) doesn't mean that you throw out ALL tactics.

    What gets me is that so many want to play at war. If we are loosing the war on terror then it is because our leaders are only playing at it. They are not conducting a War.

    In a real war innocents do die. In a real war you do what ever it takes to destroy your enemy. There is no such thing as a "civilized war", in a real war.

    Edit Note: Corrected spelling mistake.
    When we get in a real war, I'll give it a read.
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    Re: NATO Backs McChrystal Strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What? They made you go be a gun bunny? Man, I'm sorry. Wow, just wow. I didn't know that. I'll have to take it easy on you from now on.
    Officers don't get to pick their branch. We request one and the Army decides. You didn't know that? Sometimes OCS guys can get a branch prior to OCS, but not ROTC or West Point. We roll the dice! It could have been worse; I could have gotten Chemical or some pogue crap. Artillery really isn't that bad. We kind of get the best of both worlds.


    Getting your own battery?
    I am! I'm pretty fired up. I'm sick of being on staff.

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    Re: NATO Backs McChrystal Strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    When we get in a real war, I'll give it a read.

    Cat, my freind, anytime any enemy points a gun at you war becomes very ****ing real.

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    Re: NATO Backs McChrystal Strategy

    Why doesn't Obama use his fantastic charisma to convince our allies to send more troops to Afghanistan?

    OBL 11/24/02

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    Re: NATO Backs McChrystal Strategy

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    Officers don't get to pick their branch. We request one and the Army decides. You didn't know that? Sometimes OCS guys can get a branch prior to OCS, but not ROTC or West Point. We roll the dice! It could have been worse; I could have gotten Chemical or some pogue crap. Artillery really isn't that bad. We kind of get the best of both worlds.
    Yeah, I know how it works. I know that strack-assed butter bars get what they ask for, too. That's the great thing about being an NCO, we're worth our weight in gold, so they're not going to tell us we can't jine the infantry.

    But, you are the King of The Battlefield. Arty is certainly better than some pussy REMF branch of arms, no doubt about that. You coulda been branched friggin Finance! I would desert if something like that happened to me...lol.



    I am! I'm pretty fired up. I'm sick of being on staff.
    Congragulations, Redleg! Now you can where red socks with your dinner uniform. Some day, you might even get your St. Barbara's Medal and you can make the list like my ole man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: NATO Backs McChrystal Strategy

    A United Nations-backed panel had nullified nearly a million ballots counted in Mr. Karzai’s favor — a third of his total — following an election on Aug. 20 that was marred by epic levels of fraud and vote stealing.

    Mr. Karzai had vigorously resisted the panel’s findings, and seriously considered overriding them and declaring himself the winner. It was only Senator Kerry’s relentless efforts, and a round-the-clock lobbying press by American and European leaders, that staved off political disaster.

    [...]

    Mr. Emanuel suggested that Mr. Obama would not want to dispatch more Americans to fight and die for a government widely seen as illegitimate by the Afghan people.

    [...]

    The ability of the Afghan state to govern — to keep order, to build roads, to deliver basic services — is virtually nonexistent outside the capital.

    Ultimately, the events of last week demonstrated that politics in Kabul and the war in the countryside are inextricably intertwined. As Mr. Emanuel suggested, no number of foreign troops can defeat the Taliban unless the government they are defending retains the support of ordinary Afghans.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/25/we...ilkins.html?hp

    Obama won't decide until after the Nov. 7th election, I'd bet.

    OBL 11/24/02

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