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    Re: White House attacks worry moderate Democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by Just Plain Jim View Post
    Editorializing the news.

    A few years back Reuters, in a lead in to a news article about China called China's president a stone faced dictator. That is not news, it is an editorial opinion, yet we have a tendancy to accept it as news.

    To me, news should be as factual as possible without opinion. We tend to get in as much milage out of controversial news item as possible which results in opinionated news.

    Most news can be reported in a few paragraphs. But the tendancy, especially when it comes to hot items is to regurgitate the same facts (or missfacts) as possible to fill up the required space in order to call themselves a newspaper. This so called news then takes on a life of its own as the public clammers for more villians. That is not responsible news reporting, that is done for market share and advertising dollars.

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    I think it has more to do with having a 24X7 news cycle than anything. Advertisers are paying to fill up space on 24 hour news channels and so the networks have an obligation to deliver viewers to the advertisers. Sensationalism sells.

    It's not like it used to be when you could turn on the news program in the morning and the evening and get the streamlined facts because they had limited time. Now they have all the time in the world to opine and editorialize. And they do. To fill up space, like you said.

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    Re: White House attacks worry moderate Democrats

    I would much rathers see networks like Fox repeat the truth over and over again on their 24 hour news cycle..VS filling 23 1/2 hours with lies and distortions.

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    Re: White House attacks worry moderate Democrats

    When did it become no big deal if commentators lie?

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    Re: White House attacks worry moderate Democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    When did it become no big deal if commentators lie?
    No one said it isn't a big deal. But the average thinking viewer should know that there is a distinction between journalism and editorial content.

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    Re: White House attacks worry moderate Democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Easy Target View Post
    That's all part of the dumbing down of America. From what I have been able to gather, most journalism classes now teach that editorializing in a news story is the right thing to do. My godson's journalism teacher argues that it is the responsibility of the reporter to bring people to their point of view when writing news stories. When I confronted this clown, she defended her position by stating that the average person does not have enough knowledge to make the decision so since the reporter has done the investigation, he is more able to tell the people what is important and how it should be interpreted.
    Except that the reporters (most?) often don't have a clue, because all they typically know about the subject is what they learned for that story.

    Even reporters who cover regular beats have this problem. Coverage in areas where I have expertise and know the difference is most often abysmal.
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    Re: White House attacks worry moderate Democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No one said it isn't a big deal. But the average thinking viewer should know that there is a distinction between journalism and editorial content.
    Of course, but lying in either is a big deal. When respectable commentators make a mistake, they correct themselves. They don't lie. Newspaper op-eds are fact-checked, for example.


    Glenn Beck commented that when he was on CNN they made him fact check stuff, he cited that as a difference b/w CNN and FOX
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    Re: White House attacks worry moderate Democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    I would much rathers see networks like Fox repeat the truth over and over again on their 24 hour news cycle..VS filling 23 1/2 hours with lies and distortions.
    You might feel that way while we're talking it about it but we, as viewers, ask to be lied to. We tune in to television far more than we should. We consume in ways that make it economically profitable to advertise 24X7. We give viewership to these news channels all day every day.

    If we didn't create a market for the lies, then no one would find it profitable to sell lies all day.

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    Re: White House attacks worry moderate Democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    Of course, but lying in either is a big deal. When respectable commentators make a mistake, they correct themselves. They don't lie.
    True. And here on the thread topic, I think it's more appropriate for viewership and other commentators to address that when it happens. The White House should be dessiminating facts through press conferences and interviews; not sniping at news outlets over insults real and imagined.

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    Re: White House attacks worry moderate Democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    You might feel that way while we're talking it about it but we, as viewers, ask to be lied to. We tune in to television far more than we should. We consume in ways that make it economically profitable to advertise 24X7. We give viewership to these news channels all day every day.

    If we didn't create a market for the lies, then no one would find it profitable to sell lies all day.
    News...shouldn't be reality TV soapopera's that just throws lies out there for the sake of dividing our country..

    There is something seriously wrong with that.

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    Re: White House attacks worry moderate Democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    True. And here on the thread topic, I think it's more appropriate for viewership and other commentators to address that when it happens. The White House should be dessiminating facts through press conferences and interviews; not sniping at news outlets over insults real and imagined.
    And called on the lies they tell, every time they tell them.

    Oh wait...... that's what all the fooferall is about.

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