That's not a news show, that's a morning commentary show. Like MSNBC's "Morning Joe" or "Good Morning America".Originally Posted by vauge
Au contraire - it's no more a mistake than Olberman's "Worst Person in the World" segment is valid news. Try again.Originally Posted by vauge
Pick out a lie from "FoxNews".
Editorializing the news.
A few years back Reuters, in a lead in to a news article about China called China's president a stone faced dictator. That is not news, it is an editorial opinion, yet we have a tendancy to accept it as news.
To me, news should be as factual as possible without opinion. We tend to get in as much milage out of controversial news item as possible which results in opinionated news.
Most news can be reported in a few paragraphs. But the tendancy, especially when it comes to hot items is to regurgitate the same facts (or missfacts) as possible to fill up the required space in order to call themselves a newspaper. This so called news then takes on a life of its own as the public clammers for more villians. That is not responsible news reporting, that is done for market share and advertising dollars.
The problem is that most folks cannot tell the difference between truth and commenting.
People assume a lot around here. I do not like MSNBC or CNN either. "Good Morning America" doesn't really comment, but when they do - it is more clear.Like MSNBC's "Morning Joe" or "Good Morning America".
I did. And like my genius mind prophesied - you ignored it.Pick out a lie from "FoxNews".
Last edited by Schweddy; 10-23-09 at 12:41 PM.
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I am also known as "vauge".
Technically, the news should really never use verbs other than "said," "did," "is," etc. -- simple verbs which say what happened, but don't "describe" what happened.
So, when a "news" story says something like "the Press Secretary retreated into ambiguity by claiming . . . " -- well, that's editorial.
You'll be hard-pressed to find any news story which passes that test.
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Fox News Programming:
America's NewsHQ (weekends)
Fox News Watch (Saturday's 11:30, 2:30)
Fox Report (Weekdays 7pm)
Happening New (Weekdays 11am)
Special Report (Weekdays 6pm)
Live Desk (Weekdays 1pm)
Fox Opinion / Commentator Shows:
Fox & Friends
Does that help out? Now... how about those "Fox News" lies you promised?
"You'll be hard-pressed to find any news story which passes that test. "
That's all part of the dumbing down of America. From what I have been able to gather, most journalism classes now teach that editorializing in a news story is the right thing to do. My godson's journalism teacher argues that it is the responsibility of the reporter to bring people to their point of view when writing news stories. When I confronted this clown, she defended her position by stating that the average person does not have enough knowledge to make the decision so since the reporter has done the investigation, he is more able to tell the people what is important and how it should be interpreted.
Talk about juevos! Needless to say, I filed a formal complaint with the college and also needled to say, it went nowhere. After all, she has tenure.
However, yes, it is dumbing down America to merge the two things together when they are clearly not together. Having a journalism prof mix the two together simply confirms that she'll damage a many new generations of fake journalists who will inject opinion into "news", therefore redefining "news" as a synonym for "opinion". That has one outcome --- the irrelevance of media in the future.
"He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)