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    Re: White House attacks worry moderate Democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by 10thJustice View Post
    I did represent the Obama campaign at polling places throughout PA on Election Day and I can tell you that all the hype about Independents is "much ado about nothing". An energized Democratic base can defeat Republicans and Independents by large numbers.

    Is that true? I can't remember the exit polliing now, but it seems like Independents did make a difference? Maybe PA was different ... I can't remember, actually.

    But, Independents now outnumber Dems and Reps, so it seems like they are important. Indies have been the biggest slice in Maine for awhile.

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    Re: White House attacks worry moderate Democrats

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    Obama had better stop screwing around with Fox, and move on.
    As more legitimate news organizations now feel empowered to speak openly about what Fox has been doing for years, I think the screws will be tightening for a while.

    It's a good thing, don't you think, to educate the masses about the difference between news and editorial? Give people a good understanding about what is news content and what is not.

    If people begin to chuckle to themselves or even grin sheepishly when they hear "Fair and Balanced", then we're getting somewhere...

    Opinion has it's place, it should come right after thoughtful analysis. But all to often on FNC, editorial is woven together with news in a way that is totally contrary to journalistic standards.



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    Re: White House attacks worry moderate Democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    The argument was that we would not know about ACORN without Fox. This is untrue.
    Again, how many people follow that blog, compared to FNC's veiwership?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: White House attacks worry moderate Democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by 10thJustice View Post
    I did represent the Obama campaign at polling places throughout PA on Election Day and I can tell you that all the hype about Independents is "much ado about nothing". An energized Democratic base can defeat Republicans and Independents by large numbers.
    Therein lies your problem, IMO. I think you all are going to have a damn hard time energizing enough Demcrats to do any good in 2012. You've lost the Blue Dogs. They're gone.

    Only 33% identify themselves as Democrats. Better than the Republicans, but not by much. If you lose the Blue Dogs, those number will probably drop into the teens.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: White House attacks worry moderate Democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    As more legitimate news organizations now feel empowered to speak openly about what Fox has been doing for years, I think the screws will be tightening for a while.

    It's a good thing, don't you think, to educate the masses about the difference between news and editorial? Give people a good understanding about what is news content and what is not.

    If people begin to chuckle to themselves or even grin sheepishly when they hear "Fair and Balanced", then we're getting somewhere...

    Opinion has it's place, it should come right after thoughtful analysis. But all to often on FNC, editorial is woven together with news in a way that is totally contrary to journalistic standards.



    The problem with that, is that you have politicians doing the educating. Would you go along with Conservative politicians educating the masses?

    I'm kinda betting you fought hard to resist writing the, "unwashed", masses...
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: White House attacks worry moderate Democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I think conformity is what the white house is looking for here. As far as journalistic integrity may I assume you mean this kind?

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    No one wants to listen to Obama worship and "thrills" running up men's legs when they hear Obama speak. But Keith Oberman and Rachael Maddow, however, are examples of what Fox News anchors should aspire to. Oberman and Maddow are obviously Democrats but they will pummel Obama when he retreats on his campaign promises i.e. closing Gitmo, putting tax cuts into stimulus bill without securing any Republican votes in the House, ending don't ask/don't tell, backing away from public option etc. etc.

    By presenting the pros and cons of the administration these 2 left-wing pundits have a legitimate claim to journalistic objectivity.
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    Re: White House attacks worry moderate Democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by 10thJustice View Post
    No one wants to listen to Obama worship and "thrills" running up men's legs when they hear Obama speak. But Keith Oberman and Rachael Maddow, however, are examples of what Fox News anchors should aspire to. Oberman and Maddow are obviously Democrats but they will pummel Obama when he retreats on his campaign promises i.e. closing Gitmo, putting tax cuts into stimulus bill without securing any Republican votes in the House, ending don't ask/don't tell, backing away from public option etc. etc.

    By presenting the pros and cons of the administration these 2 left-wing pundits have a legitimate claim to journalistic objectivity.
    You. Can't. Possibly. Be serious.

    If you are . . . wow. Just wow.
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    Re: White House attacks worry moderate Democrats

    olbermann and maddow, it's true, attack their disappointment of a hero

    they criticize him from the far, far left

    quite objectively

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    Re: White House attacks worry moderate Democrats

    republicans are dead---LOL!

    RealClearPolitics - Election 2009 - Virginia Governor - McDonnell vs. Deeds

    RCP Average 10/5 - 10/19 -- 50.7 39.8 McDonnell +10.9
    SurveyUSA 10/17 - 10/19 595 LV 59 40 McDonnell +19
    Clarus Research 10/18 - 10/19 605 LV 49 41 McDonnell +8
    Rasmussen Reports 10/12 - 10/12 750 LV 50 43 McDonnell +7
    Virginian-Pilot/CNU 10/8 - 10/13 506 LV 45 31 McDonnell +14
    Mason-Dixon 10/6 - 10/8 625 LV 48 40 McDonnell +8
    Washington Post 10/5 - 10/7 1001 LV 53 44 McDonnell +9
    just 11 days from today the most bellwether state in the union is gonna turn

    by ten or so points

    bluedogs bid bye bye to obama

    and liberal enthusiasm is thru the floor

    polls suggest african americans, 22% of the virginia votership on november 7, will be 11% a week from tuesday

    the youth vote is expected to decline from 20 to 8

    doug wilder, the first african american gov in us history, refuses to endorse deeds

    the co-founder of BET has endorsed the RED

    meet virginia, she's a bitch

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    Re: White House attacks worry moderate Democrats

    Quote Originally Posted by 10thJustice View Post
    But Keith Oberman and Rachael Maddow, however, are examples of what Fox News anchors should aspire to.
    OMG! No you didn't!!!! Worship knows no bounds in the Church of Liberalism.

    That's almost sickening...
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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