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    McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    McCain's bill, the Internet Freedom Act, would block the Federal Communications Commission from making Net neutrality the law of the land. The rule preventing ISPs from slowing down certain types of content would create "onerous federal regulation," McCain argued in a written statement.
    McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality | Raw Story

    I orginally thought Net Neutrality was a good idea but when I read more into it, its another bill that needs to die.

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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    I support the opposition like a Bra on Dollie.

    I don't see it being an issue of "creating jobs" and all that stuff so much as I see it as the government interceding onto something that they have no business playing with.
    While it's true that looser guidelines made it possible for me to get my business going - I don't see that as being the biggest issue in this situation.

    I'm so tired of government intervention and red tape complicating everything - I think the idea of "owning" or "controlling" something so vast and morphing as the internet is folly.
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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I support the opposition like a Bra on Dollie.

    I don't see it being an issue of "creating jobs" and all that stuff so much as I see it as the government interceding onto something that they have no business playing with.
    While it's true that looser guidelines made it possible for me to get my business going - I don't see that as being the biggest issue in this situation.

    I'm so tired of government intervention and red tape complicating everything - I think the idea of "owning" or "controlling" something so vast and morphing as the internet is folly.
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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    Net Neutrality is this weird kind of "damned if you do, damned if you don't" type of thing. On both sides, its due to government regulation.

    Without it, the various telecoms can bend you over your computer desk and have their way with you. The things that have been talked about, and actually done in some places, are horrible. Certain websites striking deals with certain providers so its faster/slower depending on what provider you're on, or you may just not be able to access it at all. Throttled bandwidth so you get a different amount of speed for viewing your email than watching youtube then playing WOW. On and on. Fundmanetally changing the way we function with the internet.

    At the same time, by instituting Net Neutrality we'd be furthering government control and involvement in the internet which is in and of itself troubling as well.

    The BEST answer would be to remove the restrictions on these companies of selling their stuff so that you don't have this quasi-monopoly by some cable/phone companies in many areas. However, I think its also the least likely.

    So out of keeping things how it is currently, or net neutrality, I'm in the Net Neutrality camp

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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    I still support net neutrality. If I pay 40 something bucks a month for 20 plus megabits a second then that is what I expect my cable company to provide no matter what site visit((unless the sites I connect to on the other end do not have have 20 megabits and or a whole **** load of traffic)
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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post

    The BEST answer would be to remove the restrictions on these companies of selling their stuff so that you don't have this quasi-monopoly by some cable/phone companies in many areas. However, I think its also the least likely.

    So out of keeping things how it is currently, or net neutrality, I'm in the Net Neutrality camp
    Exactly. As long as companies have monopolies in certain areas and are not allowed to compete with one another, then unfortunately some kind of net neutrality regulation is needed.

    I'd prefer, however, that they just allow companies to compete with one another on an even playing field. Dunno why they don't do that.

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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Exactly. As long as companies have monopolies in certain areas and are not allowed to compete with one another, then unfortunately some kind of net neutrality regulation is needed.

    I'd prefer, however, that they just allow companies to compete with one another on an even playing field. Dunno why they don't do that.
    Net neutrality won't solve the monopoly problem. That is an infrastructure and ownership issue that really isn't touched.

    Once again, infrastructure and ownership issues. There are still alot of places that don't have dedicated internet infrastructure built up. Especially if you live in the outskirts of any town. I live in Houston and I still know 2 people that have to use satellite for their connection because they live out of town.

    Net neutrality sounds good on paper until you realize it doesn't stop companies from charging you up the rear with new fees or higher monthly rates to make up for their losses. Heck, if net neutrality passes be prepared to have your internet work like a phone. Charged per minute. Very equal....
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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality | Raw Story

    I orginally thought Net Neutrality was a good idea but when I read more into it, its another bill that needs to die.

    McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality | Raw Story
    sounds to me like it's a necessary evil.

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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Net Neutrality is this weird kind of "damned if you do, damned if you don't" type of thing. On both sides, its due to government regulation.

    Without it, the various telecoms can bend you over your computer desk and have their way with you. The things that have been talked about, and actually done in some places, are horrible. Certain websites striking deals with certain providers so its faster/slower depending on what provider you're on, or you may just not be able to access it at all. Throttled bandwidth so you get a different amount of speed for viewing your email than watching youtube then playing WOW. On and on. Fundmanetally changing the way we function with the internet.

    At the same time, by instituting Net Neutrality we'd be furthering government control and involvement in the internet which is in and of itself troubling as well.

    The BEST answer would be to remove the restrictions on these companies of selling their stuff so that you don't have this quasi-monopoly by some cable/phone companies in many areas. However, I think its also the least likely.

    So out of keeping things how it is currently, or net neutrality, I'm in the Net Neutrality camp
    Yup, here it's commiecast that runs the show. There are maybe a couple others, but most everyone has to use Comcast. It sucks because their service is variable. In the end, I want to go the Net Neutrality route, but there has to be some dynamic which fights against monopoly.

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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Keorythe View Post
    Net neutrality won't solve the monopoly problem. That is an infrastructure and ownership issue that really isn't touched.

    Once again, infrastructure and ownership issues. There are still alot of places that don't have dedicated internet infrastructure built up. Especially if you live in the outskirts of any town. I live in Houston and I still know 2 people that have to use satellite for their connection because they live out of town.

    Net neutrality sounds good on paper until you realize it doesn't stop companies from charging you up the rear with new fees or higher monthly rates to make up for their losses. Heck, if net neutrality passes be prepared to have your internet work like a phone. Charged per minute. Very equal....
    I realize net neutrality doesn't address the core of the issue. But it is better than the alternative we are presented with. As I said, I'd prefer that monopolies did not exist and all companies were in fair competition with one another. That would solve the problem right there. Unfortunately, that is not the case.

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