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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    Cable and DSL aren't even equal a majority of the time. Cable is often faster and does not have as stringent location requirements as DSL does. The further you get from the source via DSL the slower your internet goes.

    Cell and Satellite aren't viable internet options right now. At least, not compared to Cable/DSL/FiOS.

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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    They don't compete at all. You're trying to tell me that they don't WANT to?
    They don't HAVE to. Do you think Comcast is in any competition with AT&T when their prices differ by a dollar or two tops? Please understand that there is no such as a market in the case of the internet. It's whichever company is prevalent in the area you live in and if you're lucky you can get hitched to some 3rd rate internet provider like Citizens.

    The 'market' for ISPs is much like the market for computers. You have 5 or maybe tops 8 market holding PC makers and the rest are irrelevant. They all provide the same ****ty products and don't really compete to make the operating systems they use(ALL use Windows) reliable. Why? Because they simply do not have to.

    That they actually want to allow other companies to have monopolies and force them out of servicing certain areas? That makes no sense.
    You can't read properly. That's why.
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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    They don't HAVE to. Do you think Comcast is in any competition with AT&T when their prices differ by a dollar or two tops? Please understand that there is no such as a market in the case of the internet. It's whichever company is prevalent in the area you live in and if you're lucky you can get hitched to some 3rd rate internet provider like Citizens.

    The 'market' for ISPs is much like the market for computers. You have 5 or maybe tops 8 market holding PC makers and the rest are irrelevant. They all provide the same ****ty products and don't really compete to make the operating systems they use(ALL use Windows) reliable. Why? Because they simply do not have to.



    You can't read properly. That's why.
    Apparently you can't you read. Companies DO have monopolies in many areas. You do NOT have a choice of cable provider.

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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Apparently you can't you read. Companies DO have monopolies in many areas. You do NOT have a choice of cable provider.
    Wow you're silly here :

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    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat
    that they just allow companies to compete with one another on an even playing field. Dunno why they don't do that.
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    Because companies don't compete fair when they don't have to. There are tops 6 real internet providers in all of the continental U.S. - and when I say 'real' I mean with any significant market share. We do not have a market when it comes to the internet in the U.S. - we have a cartel of internet providers. Just like there is no oil market. There is a cartel of oil producing countries(OPEC).
    You :

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    They don't compete at all. You're trying to tell me that they don't WANT to? That they actually want to allow other companies to have monopolies and force them out of servicing certain areas? That makes no sense.
    No. I am explaining to you that they simply do not have to. Which is entirely different then not wanting to regardless of whether some companies hold monopolies over certain areas or not.

    You put AT&T and Comcast with a myriad of other little noname providers and we can assess that the majority of the population will be more or less evenly split between the two major players with a small deviant amount going to other providers. Why? Because there is no competition. Why would they have to compete when they can give the perception that they are while setting the prices at nearly identical levels?

    My argument doesn't fool itself into believing that if companies had to compete they actually would.
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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    I am torn on net neutrality, but I believe it to be a necessary evil. Without it, here is what your ISP may eventually look like:

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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Kinda ironic that a man with next to non computer skills introduces a bill on it.. not to mention one that has received tons of money from the telecommunications industry who are against any melding in their monopolistic market. Yet again we have a Republican putting forward legislation to defend bad practices in an industry that are hurting the consumer.... ahh the irony.
    Barack Obama received hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations from various banking and insurance companies during his campaign for President; more than any other politician in Washington actually. He won and bailed them out. I'm sure you were terribly disturbed by this and made your concerns known to the forum.

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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    I also support Net Neutrality because I am opposed to telecom companies deciding who will be able access faster internet speeds and who will not.
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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Apparently you can't you read. Companies DO have monopolies in many areas. You do NOT have a choice of cable provider.
    This is similar to power companies that have regulated monopolies. Apparently it is not feasible to have every company in existence competing in the same area due to ownership of transmission media, maintenance, space, etc....
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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    This is similar to power companies that have regulated monopolies. Apparently it is not feasible to have every company in existence competing in the same area due to ownership of transmission media, maintenance, space, etc....
    LOL what a load of bs. How come we in Europe can pick and choose what power supplier we want?.
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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    LOL what a load of bs. How come we in Europe can pick and choose what power supplier we want?.
    Here in Texas we have choices.

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