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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    I always thought Net Neutrality was when the government stayed out the way, no regulation and no taxes.
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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    Heres what Cato thinks of the whole idea

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL8BaaiqLlw"]YouTube - Jim Harper discusses the FCC's plan to regulate the internet[/ame]
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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Barack Hussein Obama is a god damn socialist son of a bitch.
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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    I am against (the government version of) Net Neutrality. I agree with Jim Harper, the internet is working well now. Even if they did cut off my youtube, porn, or Facebook, it's not the end of the world. I don't have a fundamental right to those things anyway. Also from what I have read it is a way for big corporations like, FB, YouTube, Photobucket, to essential have veryone else subsidize their bandwidth usage.

    Since When is John McCain against big government power grabs?
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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post

    Since When is John McCain against big government power grabs?
    I believe he will be up for election in 2010, Im not sure.
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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    I am against (the government version of) Net Neutrality. I agree with Jim Harper, the internet is working well now. Even if they did cut off my youtube, porn, or Facebook, it's not the end of the world. I don't have a fundamental right to those things anyway. Also from what I have read it is a way for big corporations like, FB, YouTube, Photobucket, to essential have veryone else subsidize their bandwidth usage.

    Since When is John McCain against big government power grabs?
    I guess you figure the govt has more right than you, dontcha?
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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    The problem with the internet is the local monopolies that prevent consumers from switching providers that screw them. Unfortunately, the infrastructure costs for providing such cables make real competition nearly impossible. Most regions can't generate enough revenue to actually have 5 competing ISP's making a profit. In short, consumer choice doesn't exist, and thus the market can't solve undesirable behavior. Using the government to prevent screwing the customer is the last ditch option. If anyone could offer a better solution, I'd take it, but at this point it is all we have got. Its a matter of picking the lesser evil, and at this point I'd chose the FCC over Comcast.

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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    FINALLY, something I can agree with McCain on

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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    The problem with the internet is the local monopolies that prevent consumers from switching providers that screw them. Unfortunately, the infrastructure costs for providing such cables make real competition nearly impossible. Most regions can't generate enough revenue to actually have 5 competing ISP's making a profit. In short, consumer choice doesn't exist, and thus the market can't solve undesirable behavior. Using the government to prevent screwing the customer is the last ditch option. If anyone could offer a better solution, I'd take it, but at this point it is all we have got. Its a matter of picking the lesser evil, and at this point I'd chose the FCC over Comcast.
    Not to mention our government has helped put us here. I read an artical recently that showed how many providers lobbied state governments to give them loans and tax breaks to build infrastructure and provide service. In some cases the goverment even made deals that will not allow competition in for so many years.

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    Re: McCain introduces bill to block Net neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    I am against (the government version of) Net Neutrality. I agree with Jim Harper, the internet is working well now.
    I agree, the internet is working well right now. Of course, Comcast and friends aren't about to start severe internet censoring while net neutrality legislation is in progress. That would really drive the public to support net neutrality and Comcast wouldn't want that. Right now, the major ISP's are on their best behavior pretending to be the most consumer friendly they can be.

    Without some kind of net neutrality legislation I can see the internet providers really not being internet providers anymore. They'll be "online providers" or something equivalent giving you select internet coverage. Perhaps there will be basic coverage with access to 30 major websites or you can go with premium and get 100 or pay per website for some other major ones. And of course, some just won't be available at all. Comcast would certainly prefer you watch cable rather than internet video.

    Basically, the internet would cease to exist and we would have "online providers" ala AOL of the early 90's.

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