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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Of course, Iraq is a success. Now.
    Still quite a few recent bombings & we still have lots of boots on the ground yet. What do you think will happen the second we leave?
    (or should we stay there forever?....unwanted occupiers)
    I think it will return to the same bloodbath it would have been the second their strong central government was no more. You really think they are capable of being a democracy??)

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I say bring them all home.



    I actually agree, I do not trust that this pressident has our troops best inerests as a priority.
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    My biggest problem with this is that it is not in the interest of an American General to admit when we just cannot win. You don't become a General by playing cautious, or even realizing mortality-- go hard or go home. Instead, we see the rhetoric of needing more guns, ammo, or men.

    I think we could flood Afghanistan with troops and we'll still be sitting ducks. We could hold an entire offensive against Waziristan, but as soon as we do we're going to realize that Osama has slipped by us again. Osama and top Taliban/AQ officials are more boogey men than actual leaders.




    Then lets pull em out. I don't trust our POTUS with this operation.
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    ...if the ideology is declared sufficiently unacceptable so as to commit the means necessary to defeat it.

    Its never "too hard" to defeat a foe that -must- be defeated. You might not win, but if he -must- be defeated, then you expend every resource you have in trying.

    I am further and futher convinced that if the kinds of people we have today were around in 1939, we'd have lost WW2.
    I agree with you. But the enemy is Al Qaeda, not the Taliban. The objective is not to establish a democracy in Afghanistan. There are two ways to go after Al Qaeda, who are chillin with the Pakistani Taliban: send in local forces or go in ourselves. Are we training local forces to the extent that they can be spared from the Afghani theater to go after Al Qaeda? Don't think so. So what about us going in the Pakistan on the ground. Feasible? If neither option is feasible, WTH are we doing? How to win?
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I actually agree, I do not trust that this pressident has our troops best inerests as a priority.

    Oh right......He doesn't have the same concern for our troops that made his predecessor send the same guys back to Iraq for so many tours of duty that they commit suicide when they get home.

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Oh right......He doesn't have the same concern for our troops that made his predecessor send the same guys back to Iraq for so many tours of duty that they commit suicide when they get home.




    I think that he is more interested in ending pot raids than making a decision on the war.
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Still quite a few recent bombings & we still have lots of boots on the ground yet. What do you think will happen the second we leave?
    (or should we stay there forever?....unwanted occupiers)
    I think it will return to the same bloodbath it would have been the second their strong central government was no more. You really think they are capable of being a democracy??)

    It's possible. The most distressing part of Iraq has been the inability of the various sects to get along and reach compromise. The upcoming elections and post-election finagling should prove interesting. Will it hold? I have no idea, it's up to the Iraqis.
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I think that he is more interested in ending pot raids than making a decision on the war.
    I agree with the ending of federal raids on medical marijuana sites & I'd rather have him take his time & make the RIGHT decision on Afghanistan, rather than a fast one.
    We've tried FAST....Let's try SMART for a change.

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I agree with the ending of federal raids on medical marijuana sites & I'd rather have him take his time & make the RIGHT decision on Afghanistan, rather than a fast one.
    We've tried FAST....Let's try SMART for a change.




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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    When did they return to even partial power?
    Are you serous?The only thing the government in Kabul controls is the major population centers,the rest of the country is controlled by either the talaban or the tribal chieftains /drug lords.
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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