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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    He doesn't have to admit he cannot win. You have not a shred of evidence to the contrary. Cheney says otherwise, and passed along the very plan that Obama is contemplating.
    Do we know the details of that plan? Gotta link?

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Lots of wars are like that.
    How does that mean we cannot win?
    The new reports suggest a tactic of sitting in areas and defending the population. Our reason for invading Afghanistan was not to liberate the people it was to destroy the launching pad that AQ has been using to launch terrorist attacks. If we are to truly beat AQ then we're gonna have to hunt their ideology down wherever it goes. We cannot begin to speculate the range of the ideology, heck we don't even know for sure where their "base" is.

    We're going to have to hold a military presence in that area. While the AQ and Taliban goons attack and disappear. It's going to be costly, it's going to be dangerous. With all that said... having a large military presence in Afghanistan... does that make you feel less vulnerable to a terrorist attack?
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    The new reports suggest a tactic of sitting in areas and defending the population. Our reason for invading Afghanistan was not to liberate the people it was to destroy the launching pad that AQ has been using to launch terrorist attacks. If we are to truly beat AQ then we're gonna have to hunt their ideology down wherever it goes. We cannot begin to speculate the range of the ideology, heck we don't even know for sure where their "base" is.

    We're going to have to hold a military presence in that area. While the AQ and Taliban goons attack and disappear. It's going to be costly, it's going to be dangerous.
    How does that mean we cannot win?

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    How does that mean we cannot win?
    Because the enemy is an ideology.
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Because the enemy is an ideology.
    So was National Socialism.
    How does that mean we cannot win?

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Because the enemy is an ideology.
    The enemy has an ideology but the enemy itself is not an ideology. The enemy are practitioners of an ideology. The enemy can be defeated...if we remove santuaries - my concern.

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    The enemy has an ideology but the enemy itself is not an ideology. The enemy are practitioners of an ideology. The enemy can be defeated...
    ...if the ideology is declared sufficiently unacceptable so as to commit the means necessary to defeat it.

    Its never "too hard" to defeat a foe that -must- be defeated. You might not win, but if he -must- be defeated, then you expend every resource you have in trying.

    I am further and futher convinced that if the kinds of people we have today were around in 1939, we'd have lost WW2.

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    This has to be the biggest hoot of the day, debating what a ("I had other priorities in the '60s than military service") Vice president has to say about a war, that he was second in command of the administration responsible for returning the talaban back into at least partial power when we had them on the run in 2003.



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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    This has to be the biggest hoot of the day, debating what a ("I had other priorities in the '60s than military service") Vice president has to say about a war, that he was second in command of the administration responsible for returning the talaban back into at least partial power when we had them on the run in 2003.
    THE question:

    "Make no mistake. Signals of indecision out of Washington hurt our allies and embolden our adversaries," Cheney said while accepting an award from a conservative national security group, the Center for Security Policy.

    "The White House must stop dithering while America's armed forces are in danger," the former vice president said. "It's time for President Obama to do what it takes to win a war he has repeatedly and rightly called a war of necessity."

    Is Cheney wrong?

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    This has to be the biggest hoot of the day, debating what a ("I had other priorities in the '60s than military service") Vice president has to say about a war, that he was second in command of the administration responsible for returning the talaban back into at least partial power when we had them on the run in 2003.



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    When did they return to even partial power?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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