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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    THE question:
    Is Cheney wrong?
    Wrong now

    Right in 1994

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I tossed that video in because the topic is about Cheney & the value of his military recommendations which contradict themselves depending on who's in power at the time.
    Cheney is a politician & does things for political reasons....period. (my opinion...of course)

    I think Cheney is wrong now for wanting to send more troops to Afghanistan. (he was right about Iraq....back in 1994)
    Of course, Iraq is a success. Now.

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Only time Cheney was right was back in 1994.....(Watch the video above)
    And what makes you think they're only their for Afghanistan or al Qaeda or Iraq......and not for another classified purpose like Iran? What makes you think that if Israel strikes Iran, that we're not there for that?
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Clinton/carter broke this rule, and I am afraid, its gone forever... Plus Obama non stop blames EVERYTHING on Bush and Cheney.... Obama needs to govern now, not campaign for the past.
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    Including WJBC and Jimmy Carter?
    Especially that dipwad Jimmy Farter.
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    You guys are weird.

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Everyone is screaming for Obama to make a decision for the sake of our troops HE has in harms way.


    The indecisive buffoon is "dithering" or fiddling while afghanistan burns....
    My biggest problem with this is that it is not in the interest of an American General to admit when we just cannot win. You don't become a General by playing cautious, or even realizing mortality-- go hard or go home. Instead, we see the rhetoric of needing more guns, ammo, or men.

    I think we could flood Afghanistan with troops and we'll still be sitting ducks. We could hold an entire offensive against Waziristan, but as soon as we do we're going to realize that Osama has slipped by us again. Osama and top Taliban/AQ officials are more boogey men than actual leaders.
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    My biggest problem with this is that it is not in the interest of an American General to admit when we just cannot win. You don't become a General by playing cautious, or even realizing mortality-- go hard or go home. Instead, we see the rhetoric of needing more guns, ammo, or men.

    I think we could flood Afghanistan with troops and we'll still be sitting ducks. We could hold an entire offensive against Waziristan, but as soon as we do we're going to realize that Osama has slipped by us again. Osama and top Taliban/AQ officials are more boogey men than actual leaders.
    He doesn't have to admit he cannot win. You have not a shred of evidence to the contrary. Cheney says otherwise, and passed along the very plan that Obama is contemplating.
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    My biggest problem with this is that it is not in the interest of an American General to admit when we just cannot win.
    What makes you think that, even if this is true, it is relevant?

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Il Duce will not stop dithering, the fascist bastard wants to lose the war in Afghanistan as do the vast majority of the jack booted corporatist thugs running Congress which is why Obama has only met with McChrystall twice (second time after he was shamed into it) and why the Senate Democrats voted party line and unanimously to block McChrystall from appearing before them.

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    What makes you think that, even if this is true, it is relevant?
    Because Afghanistan is a vacuum that sucks troops, money, and weapons. We've found some of the last remains of society that does not want to play the globalization game. Think a tribal leader within the Afghan mountains gives two squirts of piss whether or not Kabul has a fair and democrat regime? The leaders want what is best for their tribe, and that usually means fighting any centralizing power.

    We're gonna either have to play hardball and expect extraordinary causalities over a horribly long time or leave.


    Personally, I am not for mass producing letters to send to marine family members telling them that their children are dead for a mountain range between an illegitimate and corrupt government and Pakistan.
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Because Afghanistan is a vacuum that sucks troops, money, and weapons.
    Lots of wars are like that.
    How does that mean we cannot win?

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