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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    He was not wrong if you remember the city was immediately looted along with all of the surrounding unguarded weapons bunkers..containing well documented weapons and munitions which were then turned on our troops by the pissed off Iraqies...He was right in every aspect.
    Aw, so what. The whole city got looted. 300,000 extra troops wouldn't have prevented that. Evidently, it is a part of Middle Eastern culture to loot. There were weapons caches everywhere, and they certainly didn't get moved during looting. We dealt with the situation. It does not mean Shinseki was correct.

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    We haven't left Iraq yet!

    That's MY point.
    Ok, we're going in circles. We haven't left Germany or Japan yet!

    That's MY counterpoint!

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Aw, so what. The whole city got looted. 300,000 extra troops wouldn't have prevented that. Evidently, it is a part of Middle Eastern culture to loot. There were weapons caches everywhere, and they certainly didn't get moved during looting. We dealt with the situation. It does not mean Shinseki was correct.

    Reprint from an edit I said above:

    I'd bet that within one year of us leaving...Iraq will be back in civil war.

    I hope I'm wrong but fear I'm right. (Iraqi's are savages!....call me bigoted or whatever...but they love to kill eachother & are good at it!)
    Last edited by Devil505; 10-22-09 at 07:04 PM.

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Aw, so what. The whole city got looted. 300,000 extra troops wouldn't have prevented that. Evidently, it is a part of Middle Eastern culture to loot. There were weapons caches everywhere, and they certainly didn't get moved during looting. We dealt with the situation. It does not mean Shinseki was correct.
    You are wrong those bunkers that surrounded Baghdad and elsewhere were immediately looted and they were taking semi tractor trailer loads of high explosives out of there as our soldiers had to stand there a watch it happen.

    Are you telling me Cheney and his tiny group of planners couldn't have predicted that?

    This was happening as Rumsfeld was telling our troops that the liberated Iraqies would be raining them with flowers...but it turned out that those very high explosives were use to rain IED's down upon our troops.
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Ok, we're going in circles. We haven't left Germany or Japan yet!

    That's MY counterpoint!
    We are going in circles......I don't think it's realistic to assume what happened in postwar Germany or Japan is an accurate model of postwar Iraq or Afghanistan.
    & you don't really want to keep our troops there for another 60 years...do you?
    Last edited by Devil505; 10-22-09 at 07:06 PM.

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Cheney has ZERO credibilty in reguards to throwing criticism at this Whitehouse.

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Reprint from an edit I said above:

    I'd bet that within one year of us leaving...Iraq will be back in civil war.

    I hope I'm wrong but fear I'm right. (Iraqi's are savages!....call me bigoted or whatever...but they love to kill eachother & are good at it!)
    That is a real posibility. What can we do to help minimize that? Help as we can to get reconciliation to happen between the communities.

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    You are wrong those bunkers that surrounded Baghdad and elsewhere were immediately looted and they were taking semi tractor trailer loads of high explosives out of there as our soldiers had to stand there a watch it happen.

    Are you telling me Cheney and his tiny group of planners couldn't have predicted that?

    This was happening as Rumsfeld was telling our troops that the liberated Iraqies would be raining them with flowers...but it turned out that those very high explosives were use to rain IED's down upon our troops.
    Yes, I thought it was stupid that we just stood there.

    I don't know if Cheney and his tiny group of planners couldn't have predicted that. Obviously they didn't.

    I still don't think 300,000 addition troops would have helped. Shinseki was wrong.

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    That is a real posibility. What can we do to help minimize that? Help as we can to get reconciliation to happen between the communities.
    That's an excellent question & it involves nation building over there....& I'm not a fan of nation building.
    I say......it's their country & let the chips fall where they will....We have our own problems!

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    That's an excellent question & it involves nation building over there....& I'm not a fan of nation building.
    I say......it's their country & let the chips fall where they will....We have our own problems!
    I'm a big fan of nation building. We need to ensure that the investment in blood and treasure is not wasted.

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