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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Can't those people you named get their way now?

    What is stopping them?
    Stopping them from what? The surge already happened.
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    What, to this?
    What it was ..was an opinion which noone can now say is true or false until our troops are out of Iraq & we see what happens. I hope things will stabilize there but fear that the Iraqis savages will simply resort to the tribal fighting that has been their hallmark for thousands of year.
    Reid was premature to say the war was lost .....but anyone who now claims it is won...is equally premature.
    Mission is not accomplished in Iraq & never was.
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    You said:

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Obviously not. But it would have been lost if Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, et al., would have gotten their way.

    Which is the point. We're hearing echoes of the exact same defeatist talk now, in this thread . . . and it isn't coming from Cheney.
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    Stopping them from what? The surge already happened.
    Stopping them from losing the war.
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    What it was ..was an opinion which noone can now say is true or false until our troops are out of Iraq & we see what happens. I hope things will stabilize there but fear that the Iraqis savages will simply resort to the tribal fighting that has been their hallmark for thousands of year.
    Reid was premature to say the war was lost .....but anyone who now claims it is won...is equally premature.
    Mission is not accomplished in Iraq & never was.
    We won. It may still unravel, but the mission has been accomplished. We do still have troops chasing bad guys and training Iraqis. Hopefully Obama will do what he can to prevent unravelling. Leaving 50,000 troops probably does that.

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    What would winning look like?
    The Taliban's combat power destroyed. It's not hard to invision. I mean, it's how wars are won.
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    You said:





    Stopping them from losing the war.
    1) The bulk of the work is done; it's an entirely different scenario now, post-surge. Then, they were ready to pull up stakes and leave in disgrace.

    2) It would embarrass Obama now, not Bush. Sorry; that's just the way it plays and what it was about back then.
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Leaving 50,000 troops probably does that.
    You favor leaving 50,000 troops in Iraq...forever? (even if they want us out?)
    Serious questions.

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    What it was ..was an opinion which noone can now say is true or false until our troops are out of Iraq & we see what happens.
    What, no one can say now that Reid was wrong when he said the war was "lost" then?

    Try again.
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    What, no one can say now that Reid was wrong when he said the war was "lost" then?

    Try again.
    My point is the goal of a stable democracy/partner against terrorism in the region (Iraq) is far from a certainty I have real doubts that it will ever happen. I fear when we leave...civil war will again take over until another strongman takes control.
    All I know is I want our troops out of there.

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    You favor leaving 50,000 troops in Iraq...forever? (even if they want us out?)
    Serious questions.
    Certainly not forever. 10 years? Perhaps. Unless they want us out, of course.

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