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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Wonder if he is slower and makes the wrong decision...that's the worst!
    Missed this earlier....A definite possibility! Let's hope it doesn't come true!

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Depends on you definition of "Win"

    If getting us war weary with dead GI's returning in body bags ...with no end in site is their goal...I'd say they are winning right now.
    It only works if defeatests such as yourself buy into it.
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    & every general I've heard admits that Afghanistan cannot be won by military force alone. We'd need to build infrastructure...provide local security for the people...etc.....& We can't afford it anymore......It's not our problem!

    Declare victory & get the hell out!
    Although I agree that we need to get out, it is for an entirely different reason. My issue is that we cannot stop the Taliban unless we can shutdown their sactuaries in Pakistan. So far, we cannot. As a result, there is very little split in the Pashtun population, part for the government of Afghanistan. As a result of that, there is very little HUMINT that we can gather from the local population.

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It only works if defeatests such as yourself buy into it.
    You spelled it wrong .....realist is spelled REALIST.

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    None of this changes the fact that you ALSO believe that:

    -Signals of indecision out of Washington do NOT hurt our allies and do NOT embolden our adversaries
    -The White House does NOT need to stop dithering while America's armed forces are in danger
    -It is NOT time for President Obama to do what it takes to win a war he has repeatedly and rightly called a war of necessity.
    If you people including Cheney wish to bash the troops over and over again by describing the Presidents current deliberations reguarding just what the FUTURE path in Afganistan will look like then who am I to stop you.

    To make these claims while troops are on the line is inexcusable.
    To sit there and ignore that Afghanistan's present day situations is NOT linked to indecision of the past administation is also inexcusable.

    Especially coming from a lying creep like Dick Cheney.

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    For three years, we had the wrong strategy in Iraq. Events deteriorated. The strategy was, train the Iraqis and turn over control as fast as possible. As the Iraqi Army failed in the face of sectarian insurgents and large portions of the population were chased out of the country, we finally got some reality back in Washington and Bush listened, bless him. Keane and Petraeus educated important people about counterinsurgency. Bush changed the strategy to secure the population.

    Strategy is very important - nay critical to winning.
    Of course strategy is important, critical even, I never said otherwise. My point is, developing a strategy isn't as complicated as some folks would make it out to be.
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    You spelled it wrong .....realist is spelled REALIST.
    It's only real if defeatests such as yourself make it real. It's people like you that the enemy is hoping to effect, more than our soldiers. You're the best propaganda tool the enemy could ever hope for.
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It only works if defeatests such as yourself buy into it.
    That much is true. Almost happened in Iraq. Would have if the current President and Congressional leadership had their druthers.
    “Offing those rich pigs with their own forks and knives, and then eating a meal in the same room, far out! The Weathermen dig Charles Manson.”-- Bernadine Dohrn

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Of course strategy is important, critical even, I never said otherwise. My point is, developing a strategy isn't as complicated as some folks would make it out to be.
    Many things are complicated.....This problem is very complicated to all who really understand it.

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