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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The enemy can't win fighting from the shadows trying to kill by exploding roadside bombs.
    Depends on you definition of "Win"

    If getting us war weary with dead GI's returning in body bags ...with no end in site is their goal...I'd say they are winning right now.

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Funny, then, that I never see any protests calling for the Taliban to be tried for war crimes.
    They use Kalishnikovs -- this means they are Freedom Fighters.
    Freedom Fighters are exempt from war crimes.

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Still waitng for your response:

    If Cheney is wrong, as you say, then, according to you:

    -Signals of indecision out of Washington do NOT hurt our allies and do NOT embolden our adversaries

    -The White House does NOT need to stop dithering while America's armed forces are in danger

    -It is NOT time for President Obama to do what it takes to win a war he has repeatedly and rightly called a war of necessity.
    You need to reread the thread because I've answered that question..

    Hell yes Cheney is wrong..as he has been many times before.

    Now he's a freaking expert on not Dithering...the guy is a Joke.

    His comments bash America, the troops and their moral...again.

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    They use Kalishnikovs -- this means they are Freedom Fighters.
    Freedom Fighters are exempt from war crimes.
    Ah. Forgot about the Kalashnikov Codicil.
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Who said that doing it was going to be easy? The concept isn't as complicated as you all would make it out to be. Actually executing that concept is going to be damn hard. But, you keep confusing things with all the, "what's the winning strategy", whining.
    For three years, we had the wrong strategy in Iraq. Events deteriorated. The strategy was, train the Iraqis and turn over control as fast as possible. As the Iraqi Army failed in the face of sectarian insurgents and large portions of the population were chased out of the country, we finally got some reality back in Washington and Bush listened, bless him. Keane and Petraeus educated important people about counterinsurgency. Bush changed the strategy to secure the population.

    Strategy is very important - nay critical to winning.
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    His comments bash America, the troops and their moral...again.
    Worth isolating from the rest of the word salad there.
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    Hell yes Cheney is wrong..as he has been many times before.
    So you DO believe that:

    -Signals of indecision out of Washington do NOT hurt our allies and do NOT embolden our adversaries

    -The White House does NOT need to stop dithering while America's armed forces are in danger

    -It is NOT time for President Obama to do what it takes to win a war he has repeatedly and rightly called a war of necessity.


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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    For three years, we had the wrong strategy in Iraq. Events deteriorated. The strategy was, train the Iraqis and turn over control as fast as possible. As the Army failed in the face of sectarian insurgents and large portions of the population were chased out of the country, we finally got some reality back in Washington and Bush listened, bless him. Keane and Petraeus educated important people about counterinsurgency. Bush changed the strategy to secure the population.

    Strategy is very important - nay critical to winning.
    & every general I've heard admits that Afghanistan cannot be won by military force alone. We'd need to build infrastructure...provide local security for the people...etc.....& We can't afford it anymore......It's not our problem!

    Declare victory & get the hell out!
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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    So you DO believe that:

    -Signals of indecision out of Washington do NOT hurt our allies and do NOT embolden our adversaries

    -The White House does NOT need to stop dithering while America's armed forces are in danger

    -It is NOT time for President Obama to do what it takes to win a war he has repeatedly and rightly called a war of necessity.


    Cheney used the term "dithering" to describe our goverment actions compared to his own. Yes I do think he is a freaking inept monster and is yet again out of line for doing so.

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    Re: Cheney: Stop ‘dithering’ on Afghanistan troops

    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    Cheney used the term "dithering" to describe our goverment actions compared to his own. Yes I do think he is a freaking inept monster and is yet again out of line for doing so.
    None of this changes the fact that you ALSO believe that:

    -Signals of indecision out of Washington do NOT hurt our allies and do NOT embolden our adversaries
    -The White House does NOT need to stop dithering while America's armed forces are in danger
    -It is NOT time for President Obama to do what it takes to win a war he has repeatedly and rightly called a war of necessity.

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