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    Re: Controversy Builds in Texas Over an Execution

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    No it doesn't. What planet are you from? Perry was not governor in 1991. Jeez.
    Yes, it does.

    From your article:

    Questions about whether Gov. Rick Perry allowed the execution of a man some arson experts say may have been innocent, and then hindered an investigation into the evidence, continue to reverberate across Texas, where issues surrounding capital punishment have rarely stirred such controversy.
    It clearly states that Perry may have allowed the execution.
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    Re: Controversy Builds in Texas Over an Execution

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Carry a gun. WTF do you want? Do I have to hold your hand and lead you through every conceivable circumstance? Why can't people deal with **** these days. Whine and cry all the time, please government save me! The police will have to do a better job next time, that's it. The fault is on the State for not having built a better prosecution.
    LMAO...that's a lame argument. I expected better from you, bro.
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    Re: Controversy Builds in Texas Over an Execution

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yes, it does.

    From your article:



    It clearly states that Perry may have allowed the execution.


    Reading is fundamental, guy. Do you understand what the phrase "may have hindered" even means, in the context in which it was presented?
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    Re: Controversy Builds in Texas Over an Execution

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The person gets chance to appeal, that's for damned sure. Especially if their life is on the line.
    Actually, they get to appeal for 25+ years. If they can't prove a wrongful conviction by then, it's time to light'em up.
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    Re: Controversy Builds in Texas Over an Execution

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post


    Reading is fundamental, guy. Do you understand what the phrase "may have hindered" even means?
    Did you even read the first sentence of the article, or are you just going to ignore that part and skip to the part that supports what you're saying?
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    Re: Controversy Builds in Texas Over an Execution

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Not relevent what I was talking to. I was referring to people getting out on a technicality, like if the officer didn't have a warrent.
    An officer doesn't have to have a warrant if he has probable cause.
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    Re: Controversy Builds in Texas Over an Execution

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Did you even read the first sentence of the article, or are you just going to ignore that part and skip to the part that supports what you're saying?
    I have an assignment for everybody here. Read the article that is posted in the OP, and answer the following question:

    1) Is the article referring to the here and now?

    OR

    2) Is the article referring to what Perry might have done if he had been governor in 1991?

    This has turned out to be quite fun...... And hilarious too.
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    Re: Controversy Builds in Texas Over an Execution

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I have an assignment for everybody here. Read the article that is posted in the OP, and answer the following question:

    1) Is the article referring to the here and now?

    OR

    2) Is the article referring to what Perry might have done if he had been governor in 1991?

    This has turned out to be quite fun...... And hilarious too.
    And, you wanna criticize my reading ability? Here's the punchline: your pards aren't going to touch your question with a ten-foot pole.
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    Re: Controversy Builds in Texas Over an Execution

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, you wanna criticize my reading ability? Here's the punchline: your pards aren't going to touch your question with a ten-foot pole.
    And who are my pards, pray tell? LOL.

    And nobody has to question your reading ability. You have done that all on your own, without any help from anybody else.

    EDIT: And let me add THIS, from the article.

    Katherine Cesinger, a spokeswoman for Mr. Perry, said that on the night of the execution, the governor’s general counsel thoroughly briefed him on the report of the arson expert and various appellate court decisions. He denied the reprieve, she said, because the courts “all agreed that the Hurst report was no more than an opinion and did not merit reopening the case.”
    I think that pretty much puts this hilarious episode in perspective. LOL. That is, unless you still want to continue to insist that Perry denied the reprive in 1991. LMAO.

    ANOTHER EDIT: Also from the article......

    Three weeks ago Mr. Perry replaced the chairman and two other members of the State Forensic Science Commission, which was about to hold hearings on the evidence in the case. The new chairman, a close ally of the governor, promptly canceled a hearing at which a second, independent arson expert was to testify.
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    Re: Controversy Builds in Texas Over an Execution

    It's too bad, but not nearly as bad as allowing an admitted murderer to walk on a technicality.
    To be morally authentic, it follows from your belief that if you were captured, falsely accused of rape and murder, and sentenced to death, but were given an extra-legal means of escaping to a foreign country, you would always choose to face the execution. Furthermore, you would demand the same of any of your own family or friends (father, brother, spouse, children), and would report any extra-legal movement toward securing their life and freedom -- even if you knew beyond all shadow of doubt that they were with you at the time of the murder, you would still defend the system. After all, you would rather a few innocents be executed for crimes they never committed than guilty persons get off on technicalities.

    Its my unwillingness to make such a commitment that makes me unable to endorse the death penalty except in those situations that it is materially necessary, usually involving war. As far as domestic crimes go, there isn't a chance.
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