Page 2 of 7 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 63

Thread: Controversy Builds in Texas Over an Execution

  1. #11
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,520

    Re: Controversy Builds in Texas Over an Execution

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    He must be.
    And, you're talking out of your ass.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  2. #12
    Slayer of the DP Newsbot
    danarhea's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:43 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    39,763

    Re: Controversy Builds in Texas Over an Execution

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm not sure if that's how it's supposed to work, but it certainly evolved into that. But, when the dust clears, innocent people still get convicted. By your logic, we should stop trying people for crimes, so we can avoid convicting innocent people.





    If someone rapes your kids, chops them up into little pieces, admits to it, then walks on some BS technicality, are you OK with that. See the clap-trap'ness of your question?
    Nice red herring there, but this is not about some theoretical and non-existent rapist serial killer chopping up kids, who got off on a technicality. Please try to keep up. This is about someone who was convicted of an arson, in which his kids died, who claimed innocence, and which Perry's own Forensic Science Commission admitted that there was no proof that the man did it, before Perry replaced the head of that commission with a political appointee, who shut down the investigation.

    Now about that clap-trap'ness straw man of yours?
    Last edited by danarhea; 10-20-09 at 03:41 PM.
    The ghost of Jack Kevorkian for President's Physician: 2016

  3. #13
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,520

    Re: Controversy Builds in Texas Over an Execution

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Nice red herring there, but this is not about some theoretical and non-existent rapist serial killer chopping up kids, who got off on a technicality. Please try to keep up. This is about someone who was convicted of an arson, in which his kids died, who claimed innocence, and which Perry's own Forensic Science Commission admitted that there was no proof that the man did it.

    Now about that clap-trap'ness straw man of yours?
    Where did Perry's own commission say that wasn't any evidence that the guy did it? I don't think they ever admitted that, did they?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  4. #14
    Slayer of the DP Newsbot
    danarhea's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:43 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    39,763

    Re: Controversy Builds in Texas Over an Execution

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Where did Perry's own commission say that wasn't any evidence that the guy did it? I don't think they ever admitted that, did they?
    Their expert did, and Perry shut down the investigation, replacing the head of the commission. who was going to put him on the stand, with a political ally, before the expert could testify. His report still exists, though.

    The commission’s expert, Craig L. Beyler of Baltimore, had concluded in a lengthy report that the evidence did not prove that Mr. Willingham set the fire that killed his three daughters in 1991.
    Let me also add that this was the second expert who was about to testify.
    Last edited by danarhea; 10-20-09 at 03:47 PM.
    The ghost of Jack Kevorkian for President's Physician: 2016

  5. #15
    Rockin' In The Free World
    the makeout hobo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Sacramento, CA
    Last Seen
    04-24-14 @ 06:58 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    7,102

    Re: Controversy Builds in Texas Over an Execution

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, you're talking out of your ass.
    So you don't think that could ever happen, you being wrongly convicted and executed?
    The Makeout Hobo is real, and does indeed travel around the country in his van and make out with ladies... If you meet the Makeout Hobo, it is customary to greet him with a shot of whiskey and a high five (if you are a dude) or passionate makeouts (if you are a lady).

  6. #16
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,520

    Re: Controversy Builds in Texas Over an Execution

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Their expert did, and Perry shut down the investigation, replacing the head of the commission. who was going to put him on the stand, with a political ally, before the expert could testify. His report still exists, though.



    Let me also add that this was the second expert who was about to testify.
    The State Forensics Commission was created in '05, by the state legislature. The article makes it sound as if Beyer was saying all this back in '91. This is all after the fact.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  7. #17
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,520

    Re: Controversy Builds in Texas Over an Execution

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    So you don't think that could ever happen, you being wrongly convicted and executed?

    Sure it could. A justice system where that's impossible doesn't exist, nor will it ever. That's no reason not to punish a criminal.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  8. #18
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 01:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    54,124

    Re: Controversy Builds in Texas Over an Execution

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There are more guilty people who walk on technicalities than there are innocent people executed.
    I'd rather guilty people walk on technicalities than innocent people be executed.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

  9. #19
    Sage
    Ikari's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 01:05 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    54,124

    Re: Controversy Builds in Texas Over an Execution

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's too bad, but not nearly as bad as allowing an admitted murderer to walk on a technicality.
    Yeah it is. Because of what you'd have to do to the system to make it that the murderer wouldn't "walk" ona technicality. You'd make it horribly oppressive and dangerous. The system was designed to err on the side of the individual, not the State. And I believe that is where we should keep it.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

  10. #20
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,520

    Re: Controversy Builds in Texas Over an Execution

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'd rather guilty people walk on technicalities than innocent people be executed.
    I would rather that neither happen. While the latter can only be prevented to an extent, the fore can be fixed quite easily.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

Page 2 of 7 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •