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    Re: U.S. decision can't wait for Afghan legitimacy: Gates

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    Yes he is saying a decision needs to be made after he is able to meet with Obama to decide what the options Obama needs to choose from.
    Right, and he's saying that that process needs to begin, now.
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    Re: U.S. decision can't wait for Afghan legitimacy: Gates

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    Right, and he's saying that that process needs to begin, now.
    Right after he meets with Obama to discuss the options.
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    Re: U.S. decision can't wait for Afghan legitimacy: Gates

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Right after he meets with Obama to discuss the options.
    A meeting that needs to take place, now. Instead, PBO is galavanting around the world, throwing shin-digs at the White House. He don't have time for all this commander in chief bull****.
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    Re: U.S. decision can't wait for Afghan legitimacy: Gates

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A meeting that needs to take place, now. Instead, PBO is galavanting around the world, throwing shin-digs at the White House. He don't have time for all this commander in chief bull****.
    Obama doesn't make this decision alone. Gates, who is needed to make this decsiion, is traveling and also believes a request from the Allies should be made before the US makes a decision, a request he is making this week.

    Gates said he did not need to wait for a U.S. decision on troops to speak to NATO allies about McChrystal's resource request, saying "the reality is that this is an alliance issue."

    "We ought to do this in a way that if General McChrystal has a set of needs, it should not be looked upon as exclusively the responsibility of the United States to respond," he said.

    "So I think that having a discussion of that and the fact that this is a continuing shared responsibility makes it entirely appropriate to have that conversation in Bratislava, before decisions are made by the United States."
    I don't agree with many of Obama's decisions but to elude that Obama has all the facts and options and is just sitting with his thumb up his *** while flat out refusing to make a decision is just partisan hyperbole.
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    Re: U.S. decision can't wait for Afghan legitimacy: Gates

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    I don't agree with many of Obama's decisions but to elude that Obama has all the facts and options and is just sitting with his thumb up his *** while flat out refusing to make a decision is just partisan hyperbole.

    PBO doesn't have all the facts...by now?!?
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    Re: U.S. decision can't wait for Afghan legitimacy: Gates

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    PBO doesn't have all the facts...by now?!?
    Gates is saying he still needs to sit down the President to review the options before a decision can be made so obviously Obama is missing something to make a decision.
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    Re: U.S. decision can't wait for Afghan legitimacy: Gates

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Obviously he is missing something to make a decision if Gates is saying he still needs to sit down the President to review the options before a decision can be made.

    If it's time to review the options, then the facts are all in. It's time to sit down, today and review the options.
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    Re: U.S. decision can't wait for Afghan legitimacy: Gates

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If it's time to review the options, then the facts are all in. It's time to sit down, today and review the options.
    According to Gates it appears they are going to do just that. If Obama doesn't make a decision after meeting with Gates and the other cabinet members feel free to bash Obama's political head in.
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    Re: U.S. decision can't wait for Afghan legitimacy: Gates

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If it's time to review the options, then the facts are all in. It's time to sit down, today and review the options.
    It took Bush months to change policy to counterinsurgency, with a surge, and Petraeus/Odierno commanding. Be patient.

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    Re: U.S. decision can't wait for Afghan legitimacy: Gates

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    It took Bush months to change policy to counterinsurgency, with a surge, and Petraeus/Odierno commanding. Be patient.
    The thought that the right feel Obama should be making military strategy changes without consulting the Secretary of Defense is ludicrous in my opinion.
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