PogueMoran
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I noticed no one had posted about Mayor Bloomberg's undercover investigation at Gun Shows across the country. After seeing the highly partisan way the Acorn "undercover investigation" was carried out I thought it would be nice to show how a real undercover investigation works. The premise: Private investigators were sent to gun shows in various states to buy guns from private dealers. The way the law works now is that private dealers do not have to run background checks at gunshows but if they feel that the person would not pass a background check they are obligated not to sell guns to the person. So the PIs bought guns under the premise that they would fail a background check. Now in the videos there are dealers who follow the law and those who don't.
What they found is 35 out of the 47 dealers they approached, sold them arms illegally.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhgjLDeyNLQ"]YouTube - The Loophole: Private Sellers Who Arent Private[/ame]
A dealer allowing a straw purchase (which is illegal)
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fFv2oNRWYM"]YouTube - Illegal Sale #2: Allowing Illegal Straw Purchase[/ame]
A dealer stopping a straw purchase (when someone buys a gun and has someone else fill out the paper work for them)
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVgGaJvcMxM"]YouTube - Illegal Sale #2: Rejecting Illegal Straw Purchase[/ame]
Several dealers ignoring the investigator saying he couldn't pass a background check
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJmpjpdcHN8"]YouTube - llegal Sale #1: Private Dealer Reactions[/ame]
Dealer following the law and denying the purchase
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuqGY3gFROM"]YouTube - Illegal Sale #1: Seller Passes the Integrity Test[/ame]
Dealer failing to follow the law
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_pdU-cvTw0"]YouTube - Illegal Sale #1: Sellers Fail the Integrity Test[/ame]
Now this is what a real undercover investigation looks like. If the Acorn guy was interested in being honest he would release videos showing people who turned him away.
What they found is 35 out of the 47 dealers they approached, sold them arms illegally.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhgjLDeyNLQ"]YouTube - The Loophole: Private Sellers Who Arent Private[/ame]
A dealer allowing a straw purchase (which is illegal)
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fFv2oNRWYM"]YouTube - Illegal Sale #2: Allowing Illegal Straw Purchase[/ame]
A dealer stopping a straw purchase (when someone buys a gun and has someone else fill out the paper work for them)
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVgGaJvcMxM"]YouTube - Illegal Sale #2: Rejecting Illegal Straw Purchase[/ame]
Several dealers ignoring the investigator saying he couldn't pass a background check
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJmpjpdcHN8"]YouTube - llegal Sale #1: Private Dealer Reactions[/ame]
Dealer following the law and denying the purchase
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuqGY3gFROM"]YouTube - Illegal Sale #1: Seller Passes the Integrity Test[/ame]
Dealer failing to follow the law
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_pdU-cvTw0"]YouTube - Illegal Sale #1: Sellers Fail the Integrity Test[/ame]
Now this is what a real undercover investigation looks like. If the Acorn guy was interested in being honest he would release videos showing people who turned him away.