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    Re: Bloomberg Investigation of Gun Shows

    Adolf Bloomberg needs to leave gun shows alone.

    The 2nd Amendment trumps Adolf Bloomberg and his coalition of anti-Americans.

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    Re: Bloomberg Investigation of Gun Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What has happened to the murder rate in this country since background checks started?

    Not much really.

    One of the problems with the whole background check is a lack of prosecutorial follow-through. Last time I checked, something over a hundred thousand background checks turned up something, but actual prosecutions were something like a dozen?

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    Re: Bloomberg Investigation of Gun Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Yeah? Which one got better results??

    The proof is in the pudding, so to speak.
    Well one wasn't an investigation. The right had been focusing on Acorn for years as a boogieman in the long run getting rid of the 50 million acorn received in 15 years isn't really much.

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    Re: Bloomberg Investigation of Gun Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Weren't they never turned away?
    Yeah they were turned away in both cases except the bloomberg investigation actually showed it while the Acorn thing didn't

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    Re: Bloomberg Investigation of Gun Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    One of the alleged reasons for anti-2nd amendment laws in the first place is to stop criminals from exercising their 2nd amendment rights. Do these anti-2nd amendment laws achieve this?



    Any law that violates the constitution should be repealed.
    See there's the thing though we take away rights from criminals in most states. Do we have a constitutional reason to allow that

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    Re: Bloomberg Investigation of Gun Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Not much really.

    One of the problems with the whole background check is a lack of prosecutorial follow-through. Last time I checked, something over a hundred thousand background checks turned up something, but actual prosecutions were something like a dozen?
    Kinda illustrates the point that it's a waste of time.
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    Re: Bloomberg Investigation of Gun Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Yeah they were turned away in both cases except the bloomberg investigation actually showed it while the Acorn thing didn't
    I'd like to say upfront that I'm glad to see ACORN harmed and I don't regret the investigation, even if it were biased. If your goal for this thread is to get someone like myself to say that investigation shouldn't have happened or support ACORN in any way whatsoever, I am a brick wall.

    Also, I have no beef with the people who did the ACORN investigation. I don't know them, I don't who they are or anything about them, so if your just trying to slam them, you're wasting your time.

    I was wondering if you could link to information on how many investigations these people did before discovering corruption in ACORN.

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    Re: Bloomberg Investigation of Gun Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    I noticed no one had posted about Mayor Bloomberg's undercover investigation at Gun Shows across the country. After seeing the highly partisan way the Acorn "undercover investigation" was carried out I thought it would be nice to show how a real undercover investigation works. The premise: Private investigators were sent to gun shows in various states to buy guns from private dealers. The way the law works now is that private dealers do not have to run background checks at gunshows but if they feel that the person would not pass a background check they are obligated not to sell guns to the person. So the PIs bought guns under the premise that they would fail a background check. Now in the videos there are dealers who follow the law and those who don't.

    What they found is 35 out of the 47 dealers they approached, sold them arms illegally.

    YouTube - The Loophole: Private Sellers Who Arent Private

    A dealer allowing a straw purchase (which is illegal)
    YouTube - Illegal Sale #2: Allowing Illegal Straw Purchase

    A dealer stopping a straw purchase (when someone buys a gun and has someone else fill out the paper work for them)
    YouTube - Illegal Sale #2: Rejecting Illegal Straw Purchase

    Several dealers ignoring the investigator saying he couldn't pass a background check
    YouTube - llegal Sale #1: Private Dealer Reactions

    Dealer following the law and denying the purchase
    YouTube - Illegal Sale #1: Seller Passes the Integrity Test

    Dealer failing to follow the law
    YouTube - Illegal Sale #1: Sellers Fail the Integrity Test

    Now this is what a real undercover investigation looks like. If the Acorn guy was interested in being honest he would release videos showing people who turned him away.
    GREAT POST!!

    Seriously, the media obsessed over the Acorn Boogie-Man, but guns...

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    Re: Bloomberg Investigation of Gun Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    GREAT POST!!

    Seriously, the media obsessed over the Acorn Boogie-Man, but guns...
    Bypassing dubious gun restrictions vs. tax evasion and child prostitution as facilitated by an agency which receives millions in tax dollars.

    Yea, I can totally see the comparison...

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    Re: Bloomberg Investigation of Gun Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    For some reason I find hard to be appalled over individuals ignoring anti-2nd amendment laws,especially individuals who are not receiving tax payer funds.
    How is making sure someone isn't a criminal, or isn't mentally unbalanced, anti-second amendment?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Criminals really don't need to go through channels like these to get guns.
    Maybe not a well-connected gang member, but not all criminals are well connected
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