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    Re: Bloomberg Investigation of Gun Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    NewYork has been doing this **** for years and filing frivolous lawsuits against out of state gun dealers.

    NYC sues out-of-state gun dealers
    The point of posting the video was more about how an undercover investigation is done in comparison to the acorn tapes

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    Re: Bloomberg Investigation of Gun Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    The point of posting the video was more about how an undercover investigation is done in comparison to the acorn tapes
    Yeah? Which one got better results??

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    Re: Bloomberg Investigation of Gun Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Damn who would have thought that anti-2nd amendment laws do not deter law breakers? Criminals not obeying laws say it ain't so.
    Are there any laws that are not broken by criminals? Since they are broken, should we just get rid of them?
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    Re: Bloomberg Investigation of Gun Shows

    Statistically speaking, only a small amount of guns used by criminals are obtained at gun shows. Most are obtained by straw purchasing or corrupt licensed federal firearms dealers. The investigation would suggest that criminals could turn to gun shows to obtain firearms, but that currently isn't the case.

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    Re: Bloomberg Investigation of Gun Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Are there any laws that are not broken by criminals? Since they are broken, should we just get rid of them?
    The vast majority of laws can probably go the way of the dodo.
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    Re: Bloomberg Investigation of Gun Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Now this is what a real undercover investigation looks like. If the Acorn guy was interested in being honest he would release videos showing people who turned him away.
    Weren't they never turned away?

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    Re: Bloomberg Investigation of Gun Shows

    The whole "gun show loophole" thing is a red herring.

    The fact is that most states do not require private sellers, whether at a gun show or in someone's yard somewhere, to run background checks or register or etc.

    Some FFL dealers break the law.... what a shock.

    All of this is simply looking at a type of tool that is sometimes used in crime. None of this addresses the root problems of this whole issue.

    Root problem number One: WHY do we have dangerous repeat-offender criminals with a long record of violent crime out on the street at all? By the time they get to the point of using guns to commit crime, most criminals have a long record. They've been charged with many petty crimes and likely convicted of a few. Some of them have already committed a serious violent crime, served time, and gotten out. Why should someone who held a pistol on a Quicky-mart clerk for the contents of the register EVER get out of prison? He's demonstrated a total lack of regard for human life and the utter selfishness to risk an innocent life for the sake of less than $100.
    When someone willingly puts the lives of innocents at risk for their own gain for criminal purposes, or otherwise demonstrates that they will do serious harm to others without any legitimate justification, we should remove them from society permanently.

    Root problem number Two: We should never release a felon from prison unless we're reasonably sure he/she is no longer a threat to society. If we're reasonably sure they are no longer a threat to society, WHY should they lose their rights as a citizen? If they are unworthy of their rights as a citizen, or if the nature of their crime is such that they can never be trusted with arms again (ie forcible rapist), then WHY are we letting them out at all??
    (because if they want a gun, they can find a way to get one!)

    The two questions are related, you see.

    Get the real-deal dangerous criminals off the streets and keep them off the streets, and guns won't really be an issue.

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    Re: Bloomberg Investigation of Gun Shows

    Look in just about any classified circular, or classified section of a newspaper and you can buy guns, from private sellers, with no background check. Someone wanting to purchase a non-registered gun doesn't need to go to a gun show.

    With that said, I bought a gun at a gun show a couple of months ago and you could have knocked me over with a feather when they did a background check.
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    Re: Bloomberg Investigation of Gun Shows

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Are there any laws that are not broken by criminals?
    One of the alleged reasons for anti-2nd amendment laws in the first place is to stop criminals from exercising their 2nd amendment rights. Do these anti-2nd amendment laws achieve this?


    Since they are broken, should we just get rid of them?
    Any law that violates the constitution should be repealed.
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    Re: Bloomberg Investigation of Gun Shows

    What has happened to the murder rate in this country since background checks started?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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