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    Re: READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post

    Yet put your facts where your posts are - show me your evidence that this administration is trying to hurt or invalite our bill of rights.
    Taxing or even jailing citizens of individual sovereign States for not complying with an unconstitutional federal mandate to enter in to a contract is a good place to start.

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    Re: READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States

    Quote Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
    Taxing or even jailing citizens of individual sovereign States for not complying with an unconstitutional federal mandate to enter in to a contract is a good place to start.
    The "sovereign States " are only "sovereign" within the federation. The " sovereign States " gave up certain elements of "sovereignty" when they agreed to join the union. One of those points of "sovereigness" was that they gave the Congress the right to levy taxes.

    I hope that I am interpreting this nebulous staement of yours "unconstitutional federal mandate to enter in to a contract" the way you meant it. Who knows what interpretation lies in the minds of man.
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    Re: READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    First of all I do not know what an "O-bot" is so it is rather impossible to even answer that question. The eprson who ended up embarrassing is the phony plumber Sam since he didn't even have the money to buy the business that he was so worried about the non taxes which he would never have tp pay anyways. Sam the phony plumber got a sh0t it that day but it was a lie that he told.

    If a supporter of the O exposed the phony plumber guy with personal information about how the phony plumber did not pay up his property taxes that is not nice. That should not have been done any more than the Palin Puke lies about Obama "palling around with terrorists". Two wrongs do not make a right.
    Whether, or not, Joe was an actual plumber is irrelevant. What is relevant, is that an O-bot abused her position in the government to perform an illegal investigation and illegally release personal information on Joe.

    Joe didn't pay his property taxes? I didn't know that. Gotta link?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    This “Oath Keepers “group is a cabal of raucous destroyers of liberty and dangerous purveyors of paranoia and anti-American thought and positions hidden in a phony façade of patriotism.

    These “Oath Keepers “are clearly minions of anti-Constitutional desires. For a group who likes to accuse others of being like Hitlerites one only has to watch old Nazi propaganda films of the brown shirted Nazi thugs taking an “oath” to Uncle Adolf. Just because they call themselves “Oath Keepers “that does not mean that they are in any way legitimate of good.

    These “Oath Keepers “are nothing more than fascists hiding under the sheep’s clothing of Americanism.

    Yes we need to take our country back but we need to take it back from the lying fascist/Nazi thugs known as the “Oath Keepers “.
    Ok, you may or may not be aware that 'oath keepers' (as well as 'three percenters', whose statement is much more straight and to the point : "You can try to kill me for my gun, I will not attack you, but I will not give up my gun under any circumstance. Your move.") are made up of people who, as part of their JOB involves taking an OATH to the constitution, bill of rights and the good of the country. So, because those in the army felt that they were approaching a situation where illegal orders would come down the pipe sooner or later, these 'oath keepers' simply put, are reaffirming that their oath IS TO THE BILL OF RIGHTS AND CONSTITUTION... and NOT to any would be dictator that would give these illegal orders.

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    Meh. I'm not opposed to violent revolution so long as the cause is just.
    Simply, whoever takes the first shot loses.

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    What I am opposed to is the falsehoods and lies that the "Oath Keepers" are spreading. What warped fantacy are these people and those who beleive them are living under to actually believe that the government is "confiscating weapons and blockading cities to turn them concentration camps". You know people should learn from what the NAZI "Oath Keepers" wo not only confiscating weapons and blockaded and attacked countries and cities and built and operated concentration camps.

    If your "Oath Keepers" are liars and they are showing evidence of that then yes I am opposed to liars.
    THEY ARE NOT saying that they have PROOF that illegal orders such as the ones they list are going to happen... they are simply making the DECLARATION that if it comes to the constitution vs the president, the constitution will win... they are saying they would PREVENT a would-be hitler to the best of their abilities....

    These are the guys that will be targeted first of there is a 'hot' takeover.

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    Re: READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    The "sovereign States " are only "sovereign" within the federation. The " sovereign States " gave up certain elements of "sovereignty" when they agreed to join the union. One of those points of "sovereigness" was that they gave the Congress the right to levy taxes.
    Since the States have not agreed to unite to provide healthcare via the limited power of Congress, the Federal Government doesn't have the legitimate authority to invoke the taxing and spending clause (Article I, Section 8, Clause 1).


    I hope that I am interpreting this nebulous staement of yours "unconstitutional federal mandate to enter in to a contract" the way you meant it. Who knows what interpretation lies in the minds of man.
    The Government doesn't have the legitimate Constitutional authority to require citizens to purchase healthcare.

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    Re: READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States

    Quote Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
    Taxing or even jailing citizens of individual sovereign States for not complying with an unconstitutional federal mandate to enter in to a contract is a good place to start.
    Non-response.

    You didn't answer his question.

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    Re: READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Non-response.

    You didn't answer his question.
    He asked for an erosion of the Bill of Rights.

    I made the case that the 10th amendment would be circumvented if the healthcare bill went through.

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    Re: READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States

    Quote Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
    Since the States have not agreed to unite to provide healthcare via the limited power of Congress, the Federal Government doesn't have the legitimate authority to invoke the taxing and spending clause (Article I, Section 8, Clause 1).
    I'm sorry, but when did the state agree to unite provide Federal Law enforcement via the power of congress. FBI, DEA, ATF...

    And when exactly did the states "agree" to unite to provide interstate highways, National Parks, national defense, air traffic control, public airways....

    And when did they "agree" to provide federal grants, subsidies, tax incentives to all types of business, public, private etc....

    Again, you reveal a total lack of understand of how the federal government functions and what it actually provides for Y... O.... U...




    The Government doesn't have the legitimate Constitutional authority to require citizens to purchase healthcare.
    Good thing then that's NOT what is purposed...

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    Re: READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I'm sorry, but when did the state agree to unite provide Federal Law enforcement via the power of congress. FBI, DEA, ATF...
    One good breach of legitimate Constitutional powers deserves another?

    And when exactly did the states "agree" to unite to provide interstate highways, National Parks, national defense, air traffic control, public airways....
    Apparently you didn't read the legitimate powers outlined in The Taxing and Spending Clause (Article I, Section 8, Clause 1)

    And when did they "agree" to provide federal grants, subsidies, tax incentives to all types of business, public, private etc....
    The sovereign States would be foolish to deprive their citizens the apportioned federal money that they pay taxes for in the forms of the various incentives you've listed.

    One of the crowning achievements of the Progressive era.

    Again, you reveal a total lack of understand of how the federal government functions and what it actually provides for Y... O.... U...
    I understand exactly what they provide for me & what is legitimate and what is not.





    Good thing then that's NOT what is purposed...
    I guess in a warped way you are right. If a citizen doesn't want to purchase healthcare they can be fined & even jailed for it, but they are free to not pay for it if they want.

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    Re: READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States

    Not that these videos add credibility whatsoever to the concentration camp 'argument', but this commercial caught me totally off guard and was a little thought provoking. Especially coming from such a widely viewed station such as MTV.

    These were aired during the Bush administration, which makes sense giving MTV's leftist lean. As mentioned in the OP, each side of the political spectrum is willing to go to such extreme measures in an attempt to use the most powerful physiological force of all to gather support..fear.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFmkwmc1xKY"]YouTube - MTV HOLOCAUST COMMERCIAL-history repeats[/ame]



    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PZDziHzXb4"]YouTube - Holocaust - better not be repeated[/ame]
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