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    Re: READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States

    Quote Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
    What lies?



    They simply signed took an oath not to carry out orders to do anything on that level.


    Do you have a problem with them doing this?





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    As far as evidence goes, you have provided none.
    show me any evidence that there are any plans to confiscate weapons or create concentration camps in the US!!
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    Re: READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States

    These the lofty 10 points of the "OATH KEEPERS".

    1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.

    2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people.

    3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal.

    4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state.

    5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.

    6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.

    7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.

    8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control."

    9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.

    10.We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.

    This is a set of oaths to "oppose" things for which there is no evidence that there are any plans to do.

    Let's just take the elements of point # 8 "= "use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people ". Do any of you young guys remember the parnoid nutjobs who have claimed that the "UN is planning to invade the US with their baby blue helmets" -

    "black helecopters seen in Ohio landing blue helmets"

    Point # 1 "orders to disarm the American people." Remember that nujobs have told us that there was executive order number 76264846439026484642984.78876673223b "sitting on OBAMA DESK BEFORE HE WAS EVEN INNAUGERATED" that would order the confiscation of all guns.

    Show me the evidence not the rantings of nutjobs who talk to UFO drivers !!
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    Re: READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    show me any evidence that there are any plans to confiscate weapons or cretae concentration camps in the US!!
    How does the existence or non-existence of Government plans to confiscate weapons or create concentration camps make a group's oath to not carry out such orders a bad thing?

    Why is this group a bunch of Nazis for refusing to carry out hypothetical unlawful orders?

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    Re: READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    These the lofty 10 points of the "OATH KEEPERS".

    1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.

    2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people.

    3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal.

    4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state.

    5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.

    6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.

    7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.

    8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control."

    9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.

    10.We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.

    This is a set of oaths to "oppose" things for which there is no evidence that there are any plans to do.

    Let's just take the elements of point # 8 "= "use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people ". Do any of you young guys remember the parnoid nutjobs who have claimed that the "UN is planning to invade the US with their baby blue helmets" -

    "black helecopters seen in Ohio landing blue helmets"

    Point # 1 "orders to disarm the American people." Remember that nujobs have told us that there was executive order number 76264846439026484642984.78876673223b "sitting on OBAMA DESK BEFORE HE WAS EVEN INNAUGERATED" that would order the confiscation of all guns.

    Show me the evidence not the rantings of nutjobs who talk to UFO drivers !!
    Do you understand that these "oaths" are a simple re-affirmation of the bill of rights & the limited power of the federal government?

    Probably not.

    The whole Constitution outlines "rights" that could be hypothetically taken away by a tyrannical Government.

    You do not deserve your freedom.

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    Re: READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States

    Ready to revolt?

    I think they're revolting, already.
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    Re: READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States

    Quote Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
    How does the existence or non-existence of Government plans to confiscate weapons or create concentration camps make a group's oath to not carry out such orders a bad thing?

    Why is this group a bunch of Nazis for refusing to carry out hypothetical unlawful orders?
    The point is that their followers and I am sure most of these OATH TAKERS actually beleive that this administration is planning on confiscating weapons. So this is not just theory this is paronoid action.

    The supporters of this group and I am sure most of this group are demonizing this POTUS and falsly claiming that he is planning to do virtually all of the 10 points they claim they are opposed to.

    The point is be carefull of groups who make promises to cure non existant problems. That is what the NAZI'S did in Germany during their march to take over and yes create a dictatorship, set up concentration camps , and condiscate weapons.

    The NAZI 's were right about one thing - Commmunists - Communists are bad and Communists did deverse to die but that is all.
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    Re: READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    The point is that their followers and I am sure most of these OATH TAKERS actually beleive that this administration is planning on confiscating weapons. So this is not just theory this is paronoid action.

    The supporters of this group and I am sure most of this group are demonizing this POTUS and falsly claiming that he is planning to do virtually all of the 10 points they claim they are opposed to.

    The point is be carefull of groups who make promises to cure non existant problems.
    If the President has no "plans" to do anything, then why not just dismiss this as much ado about nothing?

    I never see a problem with the citizenry arming themselves with the Constitution and putting those in power in check.

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    Re: READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States

    Quote Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
    Do you understand that these "oaths" are a simple re-affirmation of the bill of rights & the limited power of the federal government?

    Probably not.

    The whole Constitution outlines "rights" that could be hypothetically taken away by a tyrannical Government.

    You do not deserve your freedom.
    I very cognizant of what these so called oath are for but I am also very cognizant that there is no evidence that this admonistration is planning any of this crap.

    Could it happen yes!! I recall the Nixon years very well and he had enemies lists and his evil bufoons invaded the offices of a legal opposition political party office and he did try to destroy the elememnst of the bill of rights.

    Yet put your facts where your posts are - show me your evidence that this administration is trying to hurt or invalite our bill of rights.

    Show me the money ! OR ...............
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    Re: READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States

    Quote Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
    If the President has no "plans" to do anything, then why not just dismiss this as much ado about nothing?

    I never see a problem with the citizenry arming themselves with the Constitution and putting those in power in check.
    OK then do that withouit making up lies that there is a plan to confiscate weapons...
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    Re: READY TO REVOLT: Oath Keepers pledges to prevent dictatorship in United States

    Quote Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
    Do you understand that these "oaths" are a simple re-affirmation of the bill of rights & the limited power of the federal government?

    Probably not.

    The whole Constitution outlines "rights" that could be hypothetically taken away by a tyrannical Government.

    You do not deserve your freedom.
    Why would I not "deserve" my freedom ? Because I do not beleive that blue helmeted non existing UN troops are being unloaded from triangle shaped UFO 's that are landing on the mall in DC ?
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