Elena
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How would you know?
Sounds like one.
How would you know?
And why does the US need that region? And how the regime change in Iran will benefit the US?
Who asked the US to come and invade them, or to meddle in their affairs? Can you name such country please?
Who asked the US to come and invade them, or to meddle in their affairs? Can you name such country please?
In our favor and in ways that are better for most individuals.
Who said anything about objective?
Individuals ask us to help them breathe free. Individuals who have no voice in their own government.
Oil. .
Individuals ask us to help them breathe free. Individuals who have no voice in their own government.
Those interested in ethical analysis. I'm not interested in some promotion of the interests of the U.S. political and financial classes above those of others because I don't believe that dropping out of the right snatch between the right set of imaginary border lines provides anyone with greater moral value, let alone members of those aforementioned classes.
Source please, specifically with reference to to Iran?
Then why were you talking about democracy if the aim of your country is plain robbery and control freakery?
There's certainly no logical means of arriving at the conclusion that increased profits for the U.S. financial class can acceptably warrant the destruction of the sovereignty, liberty, and self-determination of others, considering that such action would have the obvious consequence of causing suffering of a more intense sort than the happiness it could provide to its beneficiaries. Nothing but deluded jingoistic sentiment could lead one to such a conclusion. :shrug:
Who said anything about robbery and control freakery (whatever that is)? You asked why the country is important, as compared to say east africa, and I responded that it is because of their oil. That's what makes their region important, not that we are going to steal it or something. We'll continue to buy it at market rates.
Source please, specifically with reference to to Iran?
I recall there was a protest recently where hundreds of thousands took to the streets for freedom. A young woman named Neda lost her life for freedom.
Neda, Iranian Freedom Icon, Immortalized by U.S. Artist
I recall there was a protest recently where hundreds of thousands took to the streets for freedom. A young woman named Neda lost her life for freedom.
One can always find "uncle Jamal"-the useful idiot in any country, that's why democracy is a rule of the MAJORITY, not minority, and especially not a rule of individuals upset at the government.
And did they ask the US to come and bomb them into freedom?
They weren't asking us to storm in there and "help" them, they wanted an honest recount of the vote.
I wonder how we would've liked it if a foreign nation had stormed in here after the debacle that was the Presidential election of 2000...
You don't even know where the US gets its oil from, do you? There, have a look: Where does the USA get it's oil? Various countries...
So why does your country need to control ME and Caspian oil and gas?
Subjective ethics are perfectly reasonable. I am lucky to have dropped out of the "snatch" I did. Are you unhappy with your "snatch"? This is a great country to be a part of and I'll continue to promote its interests over a country such as Cuba or Venezuela or Iran. Of course, I have problems with those countries' governments and not their peoples.
Nonsense...
The jingoist does tend to conflate political administrations with national citizens. Regardless, my point was that the interests of the U.S. political and capital classes are not superior to those of average citizens of other countries, and are likely to be inferior, for that matter. If promotion of the interests of those classes causes more suffering than the corresponding happiness caused, there's sufficient basis for declaring that unethical.
First of all, I am not a jingoist. You of course cast things in your communist rhetoric, so in your view the interests of the US are merely the interests of the political and capital classes. I view them as the interests of all Americans. They are superior interests.
The reality is that the promotion of the interests of the US align with the interests of the average citizens of those countries.
You of course cast things in your communist rhetoric,
so in your view the interests of the US are merely the interests of the political and capital classes. I view them as the interests of all Americans. They are superior interests.
The reality is that the promotion of the interests of the US align with the interests of the average citizens of those countries.