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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    To be fair, this JP didn't withhold his sig in the name of racial purity and preventing a mongrel breed.

    He did so in the name of high divorce rates.
    Still ... his decision was based on race. That is a violation of federal anti-discrimination laws.

    The JP needs to be removed from office. Clearly he is a releic of another time.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    The JP comitted an act of discrimination. While I understand they're in Texas, the JP violated federal anti-discrimination laws when he refused to marry them based on race.
    This is exactly right. He violated federal law. He should be removed from office.

    A few years ago, a restaurant/bar in a neighboring community refused to serve black people in their main dining room, requiring them to use a back entrance and back door. This was (maybe) 8 years ago. They were prosecuted by our state AG. That's the standard that private businesses are held to, and this JP should be held to the same standard. He is not above the law, nor is he a law unto himself.

    This is no different from the Denny's discrimination lawsuit...

    Denny's Restaurants to Pay $54 Million in Race Bias Suits - The New York Times

    NOr is this something that should be thought of as a uniquely southern issue, this sort of thing can occur anywhere. REALLY.

    Pittsburgh, for instance: http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/31/pen...orkers.racism/

    Boston: http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news...48/detail.html

    Walmart, nationwide: http://blog.wakeupwalmart.com/ufcw/2...settles_5.html

    Discrimination is still real, still out there, and still a problem. And, our system needs to put some real teeth into enforcing anti-discrimination laws.
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    This is exactly right. He violated federal law. He should be removed from office.

    A few years ago, a restaurant/bar in a neighboring community refused to serve black people in their main dining room, requiring them to use a back entrance and back door. This was (maybe) 8 years ago. They were prosecuted by our state AG. That's the standard that private businesses are held to, and this JP should be held to the same standard. He is not above the law, nor is he a law unto himself.

    This is no different from the Denny's discrimination lawsuit...

    Denny's Restaurants to Pay $54 Million in Race Bias Suits - The New York Times

    NOr is this something that should be thought of as a uniquely southern issue, this sort of thing can occur anywhere. REALLY.

    Pittsburgh, for instance: Philadelphia workers file racial discrimination case - CNN.com

    Boston: Racial Discrimination Cases Cost MBTA, Taxpayers Millions - Boston News Story - WCVB Boston

    Walmart, nationwide: Wake-Up Wal-Mart Blog: Wal-Mart Settles Racial Discrimination Case

    Discrimination is still real, still out there, and still a problem. And, our system needs to put some real teeth into enforcing anti-discrimination laws.
    But...But....Obama became President! That means racism is over!!
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Still ... his decision was based on race.
    It was based on divorce rate, not race.

    I agree that he didn't handle this the proper way. IMO enforcing a personal policy to require pre-marital counseling before he would offer his signature would have been the best way to handle any high-risk couple.

    Also, he should've kept is fat mouth shut on why he thought they were a high-risk couple. You can make an intelligent argument based on nothing but pure data but no one will hear anything if you so much as hint at race.

    I wouldn't reveal the reasoning to anyone who couldn't force me to, saying only "knowing why doesn't change my answer".
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It was based on divorce rate, not race.
    Parents of mulatto children have higher divorces rates??

    Even if the answer is yes, the decision still isn't justifiable. Because if you follow the logic, then the JP should not marry people who had a divorce before. Re-marriage wouldn't be justifiable if we were to follow that logic.
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    But...But....Obama became President! That means racism is over!!
    I think we've come a long ways, but to pretend that race is not still a huge issue in this country is simply absurd.

    Do I believe in racial preferences to eliminate that disparity, though? No. I think they cause further harm by continuing to put emphasis on race as a condition of employment/education. I'd prefer civil litigation against those who discriminate.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I think we've come a long ways, but to pretend that race is not still a huge issue in this country is simply absurd.
    Yep, I totally agree. I was only being silly, like those who said those words the day after Obama became president. Just plain silly.
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    One of my african-american friends told me, though: "We have no more excuses." I wouldn't have gone that far, personally.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Why is it that the justifications against gay marriage is the same one people use against interracial marriage? The welfare of the children, states rights, etc... it's hard to not see the modern gay rights group as a civil rights movement when the arguments they fight are the same ones people in the 60s went against.
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    Parents of mulatto children have higher divorces rates??
    That's the JP's claim, yeah.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    Even if the answer is yes, the decision still isn't justifiable. Because if you follow the logic, then the JP should not marry people who had a divorce before. Re-marriage wouldn't be justifiable if we were to follow that logic.
    The main reason second marriages end in divorce is due to the step-parent dynamic.

    I would passionately support legislation banning re-marriage when either or both people (same or opposite sex) have minor children; "equality" be damned.

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