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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    I was under the impression that they could not perform marriages during business hours.
    Really that is odd IMHO. I think they should perform marriages during business hours.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    Was this JP "elected"?

    If so, what is the big deal? So it's un-PC, who cares?

    Seriously, he cannot be forced to marry anyone. JP's marry people for the extra cash on the side...because they can. They are allowed to say "no" for any reason.
    The JP that married my wife and I did not charge (we had to pay the clerk filing fees but that's nothing special), and she did it over her lunch hour.

    JPs are appointed, not elected.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Re-read the OP again. This is a Fox News tactic...kinda strange seeing it being applied elsewere.

    HAMMOND, La. (AP) - A Louisiana justice of the peace said he refused to issue a marriage license to an interracial couple out of concern for any children the couple might have.

    {kersnip}

    Humphrey told the newspaper she called Bardwell on Oct. 6 to inquire about getting a marriage license signed.
    So...

    The first sentence makes you think this JP refused to allow them to marry.

    In reality, they already had the license. The JP refused to endorse it - which he is ALLOWED to do for any reason. The JP could careless if they get married, he just isn't going to sign the paper.

    There is no issue here. We cannot force this JP to think like anyone. Signing certs is during their off time. It is sickening how out of control people get about stupid things. Sorry it wasted your time...go to another JP and stop thinking you are someone speshal....
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    Was this JP "elected"?

    If so, what is the big deal? So it's un-PC, who cares?

    Seriously, he cannot be forced to marry anyone. JP's marry people for the extra cash on the side...because they can. They are allowed to say "no" for any reason.


    A quote from the article I posted re: Mary Landrieu calling for his dismissal sums it up:

    "A justice of the peace is legally obligated to serve the public, all of the public," Quigley said. "Racial discrimination has been a violation of Louisiana and U.S. law for decades. No public official has the right to pick and choose which laws they are going to follow."


    Read more at: Landrieu: Keith Bardwell Should Be Dismissed For Denying Marriage Licenses To Interracial Couples

    They are not allowed to say 'no' for any reason. They are constitutionally required to treat all equally under the law.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    JPs are appointed, not elected.
    I believe they are elected through their party to a 4 year term here in Texas.
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    They are not allowed to say 'no' for any reason. They are constitutionally required to treat all equally under the law.
    They are *allowed* to marry persons...but they are not *required* to do so.

    There is a difference.
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    They are *allowed* to marry or persons...but they are not *required* to do so.

    There is a difference.

    While they may not be required to marry every person who asks - I'm sure time constraints alone would make that physically impossible in an extreme situation where bombarded by a whole city seeking services at once - they are required to observe the law in administering their authority. They can refuse to issue the license or perform the ceremony or whatever else, but they cannot refuse on the basis of an unconstitutional abridgement of the law.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    While they may not be required to marry every person who asks - I'm sure time constraints alone would make that physically impossible in an extreme situation where bombarded by a whole city seeking services at once - they are required to observe the law in administering their authority. They can refuse to issue the license or perform the ceremony or whatever else, but they cannot refuse on the basis of an unconstitutional abridgement of the law.
    You are still not "getting it". He refused to sign a piece of paper that he is not *required* by law to sign. The couple were already legally apt to get married - they had the paper. Everything was kosher. The JP said no - got their panties in a wad.

    These people had to drive across town - it upset their feelings. Poor kids.
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Governor calls for firing of justice in interracial marriage case

    (snip ... ) Jindal said the state judiciary committee should review the incident in which Keith Bardwell, justice of the peace for Tangipahoa Parish's 8th Ward, refused to issue a marriage license to Beth Humphrey, 30, and her boyfriend, Terence McKay, 32, both of Hammond.

    "This is a clear violation of constitutional rights and federal and state law. ... Disciplinary action should be taken immediately -- including the revoking of his license," the Republican governor said.

    more ...

    Governor calls for firing of justice in interracial marriage case - CNN.com

    I wouldn't even venture to guess what Louisiana's law says (they have laws based on the French code rather than British code), but the Governor says this action does indeed violate state law, and of course us constitutional law as several people already noted in the thread.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by vauge View Post
    You are still not "getting it". He refused to sign a piece of paper that he is not *required* by law to sign. The couple were already legally apt to get married - they had the paper. Everything was kosher. The JP said no - got their panties in a wad.

    These people had to drive across town - it upset their feelings. Poor kids.

    I don't believe I'm not the one not getting it. Applicable constitutional case law has been cited (Loving), the US Senator and Governor both say he violated state and US law, and you're just asserting that it's not the case.

    Where exactly does any law say he has the right to administer the authority granted to him by the state in any manner he sees fit, without regard to equal protection under the law for all?

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