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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The question is why the right or marriage is exempt from the controlling in terest of the state 'welfare of the children'?
    Simply stating that it is exempt doesnt answer the question.
    Because it's pure speculation. The justice does not know what the welfare of the children will be or if they will even be able to have children. A decision is being made based on a hypothetical situation that may or may not occur. That is wrong.

    Essentially the justice is saying "because X may occur in the future I am going to deny you A today." There are a thousands of reasons that "welfare of the children" could be used to deny almost every marraige in America.
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    Are the couple actually restricted from getting the license? Are they unable to get a license from another justice?
    Yes, but if it's illegal then there's the question of why this guy is still a justice.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Going from the article it appears he denied it because "Those types of marriages don't last long". So he is one, assuming inter-racial couples get divorced more then non-interracial couples while also believeing the differences in divorce rates are so substantial that the first group should outright be denied the ability to be married. And two assuming children of divorced parents lead a harder life then non-divorced parents or non-married parents. The latter being the specific situation the justice is trying to force these children into.
    Ahh ok.

    Assuming his premise is true, and I invite anyone to present evidence supporting or contradicting it, then I would agree with his decision in a very general sense.

    IF interracial marriages don't last long, than if I were in his position I would require the couple to attend pre-marital counseling before wedding them.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Well, you were trying to steer the topic into a direction that has nothing to do with the stated objections by the JOP in the OP.

    He refuses to marry people of different races because the children resulting from such unions will be outcasts in both racial groups. It had nothing to do with the dynamics within the couple and everything to do with what the child will experience outside his home in the big, wide and, according to this JOP, extremely racist Southern world.
    You're just jumping on the hyper-emotional "racist" train without bothering to learn anything about the specific situation at hand.

    It's not racist to say that mixed marriages fail due to incompatible cultural differences if he has good evidence to support that claim. If he can prove his basis, then denying those marriages absent pre-marital counseling is not only good policy, it should be the law.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    I find it wildly ironic that someone who believes the "state" has no business in their health care decisions, yet is some what defending the notion that the "state" has the authority to approve marriage based on potential hardships of potential offspring.
    Seeing as one has nothing to do with the other, how do you suppose your post makes any sense at all?

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    THEY'RE HALF BLACK!!! 111 one Their life is ruined before it's even started.

    Just ask the President.
    Right, right, and all Germans want to exterminate Jews, JUST ASK HITLER!!!

    Oh what your pathetic ability to reason must say about atheists given Stalin.

    Please stop trolling.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    It is a scientific term and I don't really care what you prefer because it is silly feel good crap.

    "muĚlatĚto (m-lt, -lńt, my-)
    n. pl. muĚlatĚtos or muĚlatĚtoes
    1. A person having one white and one Black parent. See Usage Note at octoroon.
    2. A person of mixed white and Black ancestry.

    mulatto [mjuːˈlŠtəʊ]
    n pl -tos, -toes
    (Life Sciences & Allied Applications / Genetics) (Social Science / Peoples) a person having one Black and one White parent.
    " - mulatto - definition of mulatto by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

    Hmmm nothing derogatory in the dictionary.

    Bunch of politically correct liberal crap as usual.

    A dergatory version would be, "high yellow", usually pronounced, "high yeller". usually referring to a mulato that is more white than black. I'm a high yeller. The other end of that spectrum would be, "red bone", referrin to a mulato that is more black than white. Some of my siblings are red bones, as well.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Right, right, and all Germans want to exterminate Jews, JUST ASK HITLER!!!

    Oh what your pathetic ability to reason must say about atheists given Stalin.

    Please stop trolling.
    I'm of mixed race and my life is far from ruined. That's a stupid comment. The only problems I ever had beacuse of my mixed race were some fights in high school, with black kids, because I wasn't, "black enough", or because I, "acted white". I think that in the long run, being confronted with that attitude did me a favor.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm of mixed race and my life is far from ruined. That's a stupid comment. The only problems I ever had beacuse of my mixed race were some fights in high school, with black kids, because I wasn't, "black enough", or because I, "acted white". I think that in the long run, being confronted with that attitude did me a favor.
    What are the statistics supporting the Justice's position and how do your experiences compare to those statistics?

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    What are the statistics supporting the Justice's position and how do your experiences compare to those statistics?
    I don't know what the official statistics are. My parents have been married for 47 years and half my siblings have been divorced one, or more times, so if you go by the generational statics we're all right on target...

    Outside of my family, I don't know any other mixed race families. There were no other mixed race families, that I knew of, in our area. So, my experiences are limited to my family.

    One thing, though, we were accepted more by our white neighbors than our black neighbors, so the immediate assumption that Bardwell is a racist, based on that experience, could be very erroneous.

    This is a brew-ha-ha, because it happened in the south. If it would have happened in Maine, it wouldn't have even made the news.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't know what the official statistics are.
    Then how do you your experiences represent the typical example?

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