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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Admitting that you lack critical information, how can you take any position at all on his actions?

    Maybe this Justice is simply ignorent of the facts regarding actual mixed couples. Jumping right to the 'racism' card discredits real instances of racism.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Unless I am mistaken, the couple can still get married. They just need to get married by another justice. I don't see any problem with that.

    How does anyone benefit from forcing the justice to marry anyone he doesn't want to?

    Being in a mixed race relationship myself, if I were going to get married, and found out that a Justice was racist, I wouldn't want to get married by him.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    According to the article the justice denied the marraige out of concern for any potential children the couple may have. Why else would he be concerned for the children?
    So is the Justice citing some genetic disorder inherit in mixed children? Is the Did the Justice find in these specific couples some radical dynamic, like the black was a die-hard voodooist while the white was a roman catholic (which would explain why they were in front of a justice instead of a priest)
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    I would love to see any scientific data that shows any genetic or medical disorders as a result of mixing of two different raced parents that aren't also present in children of liked raced parents.
    Did the Justice offer any? Perhaps on a blog or a face-book?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Cultural differences can be striking but this isn't limited to race.
    My comments are contained to race because the OP and the OP's article are contained to race. It therefore follows that the thread is contained to race.

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    Has he also denied Irish and Russians from marrying?
    I haven't seen his record to confirm or deny this. Can you link to it please?

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    Has he denied the marriage of a Yankees fan and a Redsox fan for fear of the children?
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    What makes you think the JoP would have then denied the license?
    Its not the point.

    That is like denying someone with myopia a drivers license because they "might not" wear their glasses/contacts one day.
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    Unless I am mistaken, the couple can still get married. They just need to get married by another justice. I don't see any problem with that.

    How does anyone benefit from forcing the justice to marry anyone he doesn't want to?

    Being in a mixed race relationship myself, if I were going to get married, and found out that a Justice was racist, I wouldn't want to get married by him.
    Upholding equal protection under the law is a benefit.

    Could the JOP lose his authority as a result of this? Or would he just be forced no to refuse licenses to mixed race couples in the future?

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Its not the point.
    It -is- the point.

    He denied the license because of a certain circumstance. You're asking about what might have happened if that circumstance did not exist.

    Given the stated reason for the denial, do you suppose he would have denied the license if there were no chance of kids?
    Why?

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Upholding equal protection under the law is a benefit.
    How does getting married protect them? The government should never have gotten involved in the marriage business to begin with.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    I have a hard time believing your time is valuable if you are spending it on Internet debate forums.
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    Then there is the fact it gives people the ability to adapt, economically, to confront obstacles and adapt to new situations according to their own specifications, usually resulting in a better outcome for themselves than if it had been micromanaged by a collective. In short, a multitude of practical benefits.
    The Justice in question was concerned about children born to this couple, not children adopted by this couple.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Problem is, you can't priotize freedom....
    Uh, oh yes I can.

    For example: Life comes first, because without it, there are no other freedoms. We're not discussing the mixed marriage of a couple who were aborted in the 3rd trimester for an obvious reason. Their own mother revoked their right to live, therefore so much less is it for some Justice to deny a marriage based on race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Any hazing experienced by racially mixed children is speculative in that it might not actually happen to the extent imagined, it might not have the negative influence envisioned, or not to a crippling degree, or indeed, that it could even build character and result in the child becoming a better person overall. Prohibiting interracial marriages is not a sensible policy.
    I would agree if you had quoted this Justices actual reasons and shot them down one by one.
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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    How does getting married protect them? The government should never have gotten involved in the marriage business to begin with.

    Equal protection under the law refers to the issuing of the license, an important constitutional protection and one of the foundations for the opinion issued in Loving.

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    Re: Interracial couple denied marriage license in La.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    It -is- the point.

    He denied the license because of a certain circumstance. You're asking about what might have happened if that circumstance did not exist.

    Given the stated reason for the denial, do you suppose he would have denied the license if there were no chance of kids?
    Why?
    It is none of our business, nor the JoP's business. The couple having kids is a "what if" in the same fashion as them not wanting/being able to have kids. As Panache pointed out, they can still be married. The fact that the judge used the "think about the children" excuse as a means of denying them a license is, without a doubt, based on racist sentiment.

    IMHO, he would have denied it even if they provided medical proof that they could not conceive.
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